Identify a banana variety without having fruit?

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-17-2021, 10:51 PM

I’ve got a bit of a dilemma. I’ve got quite a few different banana varieties but I never marked any of them! Oops! Would it be possible to properly identify which variety a plant is without having the fruit? Thanks in advance..... I apologize if I posted this thread in the wrong section!

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-17-2021, 10:53 PM

Another question.... Does a black Thai plant have dark spots on the leaves when it’s young/small?

sirdoofus · 07-17-2021, 11:19 PM

I like looking at pictures

what can it hurt to post some and see what people have to say. From what I understand, for positive ID on most plants, pictures of the flowers and fruit are needed. But if you post what varieties you have planted along with pics, some might be able to be matched up.

subsonicdrone · 07-18-2021, 08:08 AM

i have not found any spots on the leaves of my thai black
the leaves are darker green than average and thicker/more leathery than average
the leaves often curl under on the edges
most obvious.. the stem is jet black

Valor_X · 07-18-2021, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subsonicdrone

i have not found any spots on the leaves of my thai black
the leaves are darker green than average and thicker/more leathery than average
the leaves often curl under on the edges
most obvious.. the stem is jet black

Thanks for your response, I was about to give my input

I'm growing Thai Black albeit from Tissue Culture so I'm still not 100% sure if it's the real deal. But mine has no spotting on the leaves.
subsonicdrone just mentioned that the leaves curl on the sides and that's exactly what mine is doing. I thought I had gave it a bit too much fertilizer. Also the leaves are very dark. But I also haven't exposed it to direct sunlight yet.

pitangadiego · 07-18-2021, 10:09 AM

The answer to the original question is maybe. If you know what varieties you have but not which is which, it will be easier. Dwarfs and talls should be fairly sortable as the plants grow. Reds should be easy to separate as a group. Rose leaves are fairly distinct as are Colorado Blanco. And so on. Trunk size is another sortable feature. No chance of mistaking a Fhia-18 for a Pisang Ceylon when looking at the trunks, for example.

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-21-2021, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirdoofus

I like looking at pictures

what can it hurt to post some and see what people have to say. From what I understand, for positive ID on most plants, pictures of the flowers and fruit are needed. But if you post what varieties you have planted along with pics, some might be able to be matched up.

Yeah that does sound like a good idea! I do have a list of the varieties already! So all I’ll have to do is take some photos! Thanks!

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-21-2021, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subsonicdrone

i have not found any spots on the leaves of my thai black
the leaves are darker green than average and thicker/more leathery than average
the leaves often curl under on the edges
most obvious.. the stem is jet black

Yeah I have to ! I think the plant I thought could be the Thai black is just a dwarf cavendish! Oops. Boy am I embarrassed! Thanks for the description of what a Thai black looks like!

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-21-2021, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valor_X

Thanks for your response, I was about to give my input

I'm growing Thai Black albeit from Tissue Culture so I'm still not 100% sure if it's the real deal. But mine has no spotting on the leaves.
subsonicdrone just mentioned that the leaves curl on the sides and that's exactly what mine is doing. I thought I had gave it a bit too much fertilizer. Also the leaves are very dark. But I also haven't exposed it to direct sunlight yet.

I wonder why the leaves curl on the side for?! Good to know about the dark colored leaves! By the way I just got another Thai black...so at least there’s one plant I can identify! Thanks so much for the help too!

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-21-2021, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitangadiego

The answer to the original question is maybe. If you know what varieties you have but not which is which, it will be easier. Dwarfs and talls should be fairly sortable as the plants grow. Reds should be easy to separate as a group. Rose leaves are fairly distinct as are Colorado Blanco. And so on. Trunk size is another sortable feature. No chance of mistaking a Fhia-18 for a Pisang Ceylon when looking at the trunks, for example.

It’s good to know that it could be possible after all! Yay! You’ve made some excellent points on what can distinguish each kind of variety! Pretty smart! Thanks for the helpful info!

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-21-2021, 10:39 PM

AeAe

Apple Manzano

Aiuri Fe’i

Basjoo

Cali Gold

Cardaba

Coccinea “Scarlet”

Double Mahoi

Dwarf Brazilian

Dwarf Cavendish

Gold finger

Gran Nain

Mekong Giant

Musa Haekkinenii

Ice Cream/ Blue Java

Lateria Bronze

Mona Lisa

Mysore (Pisang Ceylon)

Namwa

Orinoco

Ornata Lavender

Patupi

Pink banana

Pitu

Raja Puri

Red Iholena

Red Banana

Saba

Siam Ruby

Musa Sikkimensis/ Bengal Tiger

Sweetheart- FHIA 3

Thai Black

Thai Gold

Tigua

Veinte Cohol

Veluntia

Zebrina/Rojo

1000 Fingers

Gabe15 · 07-22-2021, 03:28 AM

So, you're saying you have that list of nearly 40 varieties growing and you didn't label any of them?

Valor_X · 07-22-2021, 07:31 AM

Ditto w/ Gabe... Do you really have all of those!?!

I thought I had a nice collection

sirdoofus · 07-22-2021, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Dearly Depotted*

AeAe

Apple Manzano

Aiuri Fe’i

Basjoo

Cali Gold

Cardaba

Coccinea “Scarlet”

Double Mahoi

Dwarf Brazilian

Dwarf Cavendish

Gold finger

Gran Nain

Mekong Giant

Musa Haekkinenii

Ice Cream/ Blue Java

Lateria Bronze

Mona Lisa

Mysore (Pisang Ceylon)

Namwa

Orinoco

Ornata Lavender

Patupi

Pink banana

Pitu

Raja Puri

Red Iholena

Red Banana

Saba

Siam Ruby

Musa Sikkimensis/ Bengal Tiger

Sweetheart- FHIA 3

Thai Black

Thai Gold

Tigua

Veinte Cohol

Veluntia

Zebrina/Rojo

1000 Fingers

Ooof.....that's a project....now I understand why you are hesitant to take and post pics of them all....might take awhile....

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-28-2021, 08:23 PM

Well I’ve got a couple plants to identify. It’s a start!

I think this a possible Basjoo.

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-28-2021, 08:25 PM

This is an unknown variety...

*Dearly Depotted* · 07-28-2021, 08:41 PM

Yes believe it or not I really do have that many varieties! I even had a Florida Variegated that just died. Anyway, yes I really didn’t mark any of them! I do know what varieties of some of the plants are though! Some of them are pretty obvious what they are! Just like Bengal Tiger & AeAe! By the way I wrote up the list of varieties I have so I could tell people on this site when I joined last year.

sirdoofus · 07-29-2021, 09:11 AM

Plant in the firs post looks like basjoo, I agree

*Dearly Depotted* · 08-03-2021, 04:22 PM

Is this an Orinoco?

*Dearly Depotted* · 08-26-2021, 10:27 PM

The banana plant in the one picture I asked about is indeed an Orinoco! I was able to verify it b/c I looked closely at the plant outside and then looked up an older picture of the plant I bought last year. Both of them have a pinkish colored bottom part of the pseudo stem. So at least I’ve gotten a couple of plants identified! goteam:

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