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RAINFOREZT · 12-05-2011, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by momoese

It's a great camera but there is no extra lens, just the 55-200mm. The lens is ok but not very fast (not great for low light situations where flash is wanted) and not wide angle. If you can find a package with the other kit lens 18-105mm I'd opt for that. It's nice having the ability to shoot wide angle. If you need a long lens you can add one later.

Hi Mitchel,
I edited that post and added some more links to it? Could you pls check them for me pls. I think it comes with 18-55mm lens.

And the last link is about D5100; how is that camera compared to D3100?

Thanks for your help

momoese · 12-05-2011, 11:09 AM

The 18-55 is a very versatile lens, as is the 55-300. The two together cover pretty much every thing but macro.The major difference in the two bodies is the swivel lcd, a little larger sensor and a full frame per second faster burst mode on the D5100. Also if you plan on bargain hunting for older Nikon glass in the future then you want the D5100 because the D3100 won't be able to auto focus the old glass.

momoese · 12-05-2011, 11:15 AM

You can learn about the different cameras and lenses here.

Nikon Reviews

When your ready to buy check with B&H first, and make sure you buy a US version, not a grey market version that has no warranty here. Some of the sellers on Amazon are shady so just be careful, read the reviews and check Google for any issues with sellers.

tommyg · 12-05-2011, 01:01 PM

For the price the 18-55mm lens is fantastic.
But, depends what you're shooting. If you are doing street photography and short to medium shots a prime lens might be a better option. A 50mm lens would run you about $120. It would be faster, gather more light, and be sharper as well.

But if you are buying a camera + lens package the 18-55mm is a fantastic lens. Personally I like the 55-200mm lens. It is overall a better lens than the 55-300mm. The 300 is a little softer on both ends. Get the VR version. Also remember that these are crop sensor cameras so the 200mm is "actually" getting you a 300mm view.

KenRockwell.com: Photography, Cameras and Taking Better Pictures has reviews on most lenses and he can be critical, and also very pro-to some lenses.

If you haven't bought anything at all yet I'd suggest getting a used or new D90 BODY and a 50mm or 18-55mm, and later the 55-200mm. Depends on your purposes as well.

Once you do weddings, macros and scenery you'll know what kind of lens you'd want to meet your needs. So the 18-55 ($160) or the 50mm ($120) could be a good start and then go from there.

Just my two cents. Hope it helped and didn't confuse you.

momoese · 12-05-2011, 02:53 PM

I also have a D90 and love it, but if you want to make cool videos using your nice glass the newer models are better. D90 is 720p while the new D5100 is 1080p auto focus and has a stereo input for a real mic. Although if someone was really into making cinema quality movies the Canon DSLR's are far superior. A lot of independent film makers are using Canon and GoPro HD cameras.

If video is of no concern then a used D90 with an extended warranty would be a sweet deal. Look around and you can find package deals that includes some nice glass, filters, speedlight, tripod, bag, extra battery, etc etc. Craigslist is a great resource for that.

Olafhenny · 12-07-2011, 05:08 PM

Sad looking fellow

"Don't know about this fellow, who is sneaking the patio door open"

"Better mosey on outa here - nothing to be had here anyway."

After that chap had trotted of, I sat down for a good lunch, feeling a mixture of guilt, sadness and empathy

RAINFOREZT · 12-08-2011, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by momoese

You can learn about the different cameras and lenses here.

Nikon Reviews

When your ready to buy check with B&H first, and make sure you buy a US version, not a grey market version that has no warranty here. Some of the sellers on Amazon are shady so just be careful, read the reviews and check Google for any issues with sellers.

Thanks so much for your help.
I haven't bought anything yet, still looking. Thanks for your help. I went to bestbuy and seen 5100 and 3100. 3100 seems to be lighter. 5100 and d90 -cost more money. So i may go with 3100. I went through your review links and and checked B&H-they have good price. but I found a deal at cosco.+ they have 90 day return policy.

Costco - Nikon D3100 Digital SLR 18-55mm VR Lens + 55-200mm VR Lens Training Pack Bundle

RAINFOREZT · 12-08-2011, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyg

For the price the 18-55mm lens is fantastic.
But, depends what you're shooting. If you are doing street photography and short to medium shots a prime lens might be a better option. A 50mm lens would run you about $120. It would be faster, gather more light, and be sharper as well.

But if you are buying a camera + lens package the 18-55mm is a fantastic lens. Personally I like the 55-200mm lens. It is overall a better lens than the 55-300mm. The 300 is a little softer on both ends. Get the VR version. Also remember that these are crop sensor cameras so the 200mm is "actually" getting you a 300mm view.

KenRockwell.com: Photography, Cameras and Taking Better Pictures has reviews on most lenses and he can be critical, and also very pro-to some lenses.

If you haven't bought anything at all yet I'd suggest getting a used or new D90 BODY and a 50mm or 18-55mm, and later the 55-200mm. Depends on your purposes as well.

Once you do weddings, macros and scenery you'll know what kind of lens you'd want to meet your needs. So the 18-55 ($160) or the 50mm ($120) could be a good start and then go from there.

Just my two cents. Hope it helped and didn't confuse you.

Tommy Thanks so much for your help.
So 55-200 vs 55-300lens -55-200 is better right?
D90 is out of my budget. So I may stick with d3100. because it's lot lighter, less money, newer and i am not a pro.
I am not sure i am going to do any weddings, but i want to get a macro lens too,

Thanks so much for your time and help

RAINFOREZT · 12-08-2011, 09:12 AM

Hey Olafhenny nice shots!
Which camera you used to take those pics.

RAINFOREZT · 12-08-2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hollyberry Lady

That's why it's so funny Olaf because I don't use the card for live videos. I know they can suck a lot of the memory though.

Thanks a lot, Tommy. A lot of it is Greek to me right now but I'll get the hang of it. I'm a fast learner. I was goofing around with some of the settings awhile ago and changing things around.

I also have to read the manuals for my two new lenses as well.

Mitchel says that this is one of my best shots...

Just gonna keep reading and practicing until I understand it all.

: )

Wow what a nice shot..

I wanted to take pics like this.

RAINFOREZT · 12-08-2011, 09:59 AM

What you guys think about this camera?
Does it produce good pictures as DSLRS does?

Olympus Pen EPL-1 - Which? first look - YouTube

Olympus EPL2 vs EPL1 review.mp4 - YouTube

momoese · 12-08-2011, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAINFOREZT

What you guys think about this camera?
Does it produce good pictures as DSLRS does?

Nice but not the same. Here is the review conclusion of the latest model. I say if your going to spend that kind of money get a DSLR.

Olympus PEN E-P3 Review: 24. Conclusion: Digital Photography Review

Olafhenny · 12-08-2011, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAINFOREZT

Hey Olafhenny nice shots!
Which camera you used to take those pics.

Just a cheap little 'point 'n shoot' Sony Cybershot DSC-H55 ($170.-), which has some, for me, nice
features though, because I travel a lot. It is small, 6 1/2 oz, fits easily into any pocket, 10x optical with
great image stabilizer, great video capability and a whole slew of other "intelligent" features, which
allow me to take quality pictures in difficult situations, where I don't have time to 'set up'.

And when in a couple of years they have a model, which hops out of my pocket all by itself when there
is a good shot out there, I will be able to upgrade to that as well without suffering greatly financially

I had in my early days of 35mm films a Zeiss Contaflex Super and never took any pictures, because the
bleeping thing was too much of an effort to lug around.

Olafhenny · 12-08-2011, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hollyberry Lady

That's why it's so funny Olaf because I don't use the card for live videos. I know they can suck a lot of the memory though.

: )

I have just ordered a 32 GB card for less that $60.-. That should give me the equivalent of more than 6 hrs
of continuous HD video plus thousands of pictures, - plenty for my next 2 months trip.

... And watching 6 hrs of my own video even bores me to death.

tommyg · 12-10-2011, 05:52 PM

There is no replacement of a DSLR with a point and shoot. Maybe at the optimum settings on a secific style of shooting the pics will come out really well, but the DSLR has a lot more manual settings, does bette with white balance, light intake and is much faster.
Regarding to the 3100 vs a d90.. Hands down D90. Buy one used on amazon from a business not from a person selling it or find one locally on craigslist. You will find that ligher also means more camera movement. You will appreciate a little weight to the camera also when you start getting bigger lenses. but its all inhow it feels in yourhands. Heavier is usually a good thing. If you look at all the pro level cameras they have metal or magnesium alloy bodies which makes them heavier but also sturdier.
A used d90 would probably be around 500-650 depending on where you look and who you buy it from. I needed some extra cash to help buy a d7000 and i sold mine for about 480 in mint condition.
Ifyou plan on takin gtons of pics and really getting to know your camera buy as much a you can afford. I was hesitant and later fell in love with taking pics that I bought a d3000, then a d5000 and then a d90. Then I got the d7000 which I want a second of as well now. In the end a great lens will make all the difference, just be realistic about your camera expectations. If you know your cameras limits and are perfect within those limits then awesome. I know some people who have a D200 and still love to use it daily. This is an expensive hobby if you like to upgrade, but if you are just shooting street pics and lots of candids and not many in low light, you would do perfectly fine with a d90 for years! The best peice of advise I can give is to practice practice practice and learn to use as many of your settings in manual as possible. Shooting in auto is fun, but there are tons of pics you will NEVER get if you only shoot in auto. Plus you get a huge sense of acheivement walking up to take a pic somewhere and KNOWING your settings will work well even before you pick up the camera.

tommyg · 12-10-2011, 05:55 PM

You can always check out my flickr account for some samples. I have some macros, portraits, nature and other things on there. You can read on the tags if they were shot with my d90 or d7000.

Thanks!

Flickr: tomasharanphotography's Photostream

Olafhenny · 12-10-2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyg

There is no replacement of a DSLR with a point and shoot. Maybe at the optimum settings on a secific style of shooting the pics will come out really well, but the DSLR has a lot more manual settings, does bette with white balance, light intake and is much faster.

That may be so, but it depends very much, what you want from your camera. For you it is the perfect
art photography, for me it is documentation.

I shot this Photo from a Toyota Landcruiser in the Serengeti

This picture shows my wife wiping out, when sand sledding (I would not want to have missed that one)

This Guatemalan turkey would not hold still until I was set up for the perfect shot. – no wonder the
natives have given these turkeys the same name (pavo) as peacocks (pavo real)

If I had had my new (point ‘n shoot w. image stabilizer) camera, these porkers’ portrait, shot through the
windshield of a moving taxi, would have come out much better.

Same piggies through the side window.

If I had not had had my point ‘n shoot in my pocket, but one of these more sophisticated cameras in a
tote bag, I would probably have missed most, if not all of these shots and thousands more like them.

I have made over the years quite some respectable photos of flowers and sceneries, but I would not
even trade the miserable shots of the pig transport for the best of these.

momoese · 12-10-2011, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olafhenny

That may be so, but it depends very much, what you want from your camera.

I've always said the "best" camera is the one you have on you when it's needed.

RAINFOREZT · 12-15-2011, 09:34 AM

I know you guys told me to buy d90...sorry but the price, availability and my budget forced me to buy d3100..
I bought it from cosco..I have 90days to return if i don't like it.
I tested few shots with auto focus..I am happy. I will posts those photos soon.

All you friends spent a lot of time for me to make this purchase...Thanks So Much

RAINFOREZT · 12-15-2011, 04:58 PM

For some reason I can't upload the pics to the site.. So I will try again later tonight.

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