Liquid VS Slow Release Fertilizers

JaredZone9a · 06-17-2021, 02:44 AM

What is better?

Which do you prefer and why?

What N-P-K ratio? When to use the different ratios?

pitangadiego · 06-17-2021, 09:04 PM

This time of year, 15-15-15 and pile it on.

smeash · 06-17-2021, 09:31 PM

I prefer slow release pelletized. Our sandy soil leaches nutrients fast so the granular is more persistant.. even so I fertilize weekly. My non fruiting plants get 13/13/13 while my fruit bearing ones get MOP only.

JaredZone9a · 06-18-2021, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pitangadiego

This time of year, 15-15-15 and pile it on.

Any specific brand you like? :-)

JaredZone9a · 06-18-2021, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by smeash

I prefer slow release pelletized. Our sandy soil leaches nutrients fast so the granular is more persistant.. even so I fertilize weekly. My non fruiting plants get 13/13/13 while my fruit bearing ones get MOP only.

I think I may try some pelletized myself. I already messed up with the liquid. They are doing better now, but still very light green. Leaves are still coming out a bit to fast. The leaves were stacking quick and coming out crinkled. Almost white on the initial dose. Plants were too young and not growing enough for that much juice. :-) I could have got away with 1/2 dose or less. Lesson learned. :-)

pitangadiego · 06-18-2021, 06:43 PM

Whatever is cheap and available.

JaredZone9a · 06-18-2021, 09:48 PM

You can see the leaf that came out smaller and how green the new leaf is. The other plants were a lot worse.

smeash · 06-19-2021, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JaredZone9a

You can see the leaf that came out smaller and how green the new leaf is. The other plants were a lot worse.

In my zone, and yours seems similar, you will need to push the plants hard with fertilizer to establish and ripen fruit on the proper timing schedule. You will see all kinds of signs of overfertilization much worse than what you are seeing. You can always back off a week or two if you dont like what is happening.. the plants will sort themselves out if left alone. During the growing season mine look like a total mess sometimes lol.

cincinnana · 06-19-2021, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JaredZone9a

Any specific brand you like? :-)

Gott o your local coop or farm store or big box
Brands are different ....but the ingredients are the same.

Buy in the fall when there is a clearance or broken bags at the big box.......for future needs......and it looks like you will need it

Buy what you can afford.

My grow opinions are out of your grow zone.......

The fellas are best for your answers....

.

Fertilizer sale
by
Hostafarian,
on Flickr

JaredZone9a · 06-20-2021, 01:59 PM

I see different ratios. Which do you use most and why? At what times do you use the different ratios?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnana

Gott o your local coop or farm store or big box
Brands are different ....but the ingredients are the same.

Buy in the fall when there is a clearance or broken bags at the big box.......for future needs......and it looks like you will need it

Buy what you can afford.

.

Fertilizer sale
by
Hostafarian,
on Flickr

smeash · 06-20-2021, 03:27 PM

Ull throw my .02 in.. for me it doesnt matter what fert you use.. bananas require certain amounts of NPK to grow, and you can calculate how much to give it based on the percentage of NPK in each blend. For 10-10-10 you would feed slightly more than if using say 13-13-13. When a plant is fruiting, it is common to feed only potassium.. using something like MOP. If you want detailed advice of what to feed, how much and when look at TyTaylors fertilizer sheet on his page. You can adapt it to whatever you have available with some simple math.

cincinnana · 06-20-2021, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JaredZone9a

I see different ratios. Which do you use most and why? At what times do you use the different ratios?

Fast answer.....do what Smeash suggests.

Different grow zones require different tactics..which you will learn.

I do not want to mess up the rows for pros...

Grow em like you stole them

You're having fun.....that is what counts.

mushtaq86 · 06-20-2021, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana

Fast answer.....do what Smeash suggests.

Different grow zones require different tactics..which you will learn.

I do not want to mess up the rows for pros...

Grow em like you stole them

You're having fun.....that is what counts.

Totally agree with you Mike, different zones require different tactics. I have tried many different fertilisers over the years. The only one that works for me in the UK, for complete overall plant health is miracal gro water soluble plant food. NPK 24-8-16

My chances of getting edible fruit is low, so my main aim is keeping the plant alive year round.

OllieB497 · 06-21-2021, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mushtaq86

Totally agree with you Mike, different zones require different tactics. I have tried many different fertilisers over the years. The only one that works for me in the UK, for complete overall plant health is miracal gro water soluble plant food. NPK 24-8-16

My chances of getting edible fruit is low, so my main aim is keeping the plant alive year round.

What type of fertiliser is that?
Chempak?

mushtaq86 · 06-21-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OllieB497

What type of fertiliser is that?
Chempak?

Hi Ollie

Miracal gro, from wilkos. 10 micronutrients are mixed in it for complete plant health and my banana plants love it.

Akula · 06-21-2021, 02:11 PM

In regards to plant nutrition don't forget grass clippings! i consider them slow release!

I bag my St. Augustine grass clippings and apply as mulch to my patch continously over the summer. This suppresses the weeds and reduces moisture loss to the patch. According to some sources grass clippings have an N-P-K of 4-1-2 plus all kinds of micro elements and over the course of a season (March to October) can return 2 lbs of N per 1,000 square feet of lawn.

I use chemical fertilizers too but grass clippings play an important role for outdoor plants.

wstrickland1 · 06-21-2021, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula

In regards to plant nutrition don't forget grass clippings! i consider them slow release!

I bag my St. Augustine grass clippings and apply as mulch to my patch continously over the summer. This suppresses the weeds and reduces moisture loss to the patch. According to some sources grass clippings have an N-P-K of 4-1-2 plus all kinds of micro elements and over the course of a season (March to October) can return 2 lbs of N per 1,000 square feet of lawn.

I use chemical fertilizers too but grass clippings play an important role for outdoor plants.

I bag almost exclusively just for the clippings!

Valor_X · 06-22-2021, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Akula

In regards to plant nutrition don't forget grass clippings! i consider them slow release!

I bag my St. Augustine grass clippings and apply as mulch to my patch continously over the summer. This suppresses the weeds and reduces moisture loss to the patch. According to some sources grass clippings have an N-P-K of 4-1-2 plus all kinds of micro elements and over the course of a season (March to October) can return 2 lbs of N per 1,000 square feet of lawn.

I use chemical fertilizers too but grass clippings play an important role for outdoor plants.

I never thought about this before. I always exclusively mulch my grass but I still have the mower bag in the garage.

What's your experience with using grass clippings as supplementary fertilizer?

Akula · 06-22-2021, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Valor_X

I never thought about this before. I always exclusively mulch my grass but I still have the mower bag in the garage.

What's your experience with using grass clippings as supplementary fertilizer?

My plants grow great but it doesn't really impact my chemical fertilizer program as far as N-P-K is concerned. I consider it bonus N-P-K. I think of the grass clippings as weed suppression, evaporation control, and minor element supplementation. I believe that it provides a different type of N-P-K from a quality standpoint sorta like a slow carb (brown rice) vs. fast carb (white rice) thing.

Valor_X · 06-22-2021, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Akula

My plants grow great but it doesn't really impact my chemical fertilizer program as far as N-P-K is concerned. I consider it bonus N-P-K. I think of the grass clippings as weed suppression, evaporation control, and minor element supplementation. I believe that it provides a different type of N-P-K from a quality standpoint sorta like a slow carb (brown rice) vs. fast carb (white rice) thing.

Those are actually very good points. The moisture retention and weed suppression are worth it in its own. I think I'm going to give it a shot.

I did some quick research and most sources say not to pile on too much grass clippings as it can be detrimental to it composting correctly... but these are bananas we're talking about. How much do you stack? As much as you can give?

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smeash Location: Ft Walton Beach FL Find me on the map! Zone: 9a Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 666 BananaBucks : 24,025 Feedback: 2 / 100% Said "Thanks" 385 Times Was Thanked 873 Times in 443 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 67 Times	Re: Liquid VS Slow Release Fertilizers Ull throw my .02 in.. for me it doesnt matter what fert you use.. bananas require certain amounts of NPK to grow, and you can calculate how much to give it based on the percentage of NPK in each blend. For 10-10-10 you would feed slightly more than if using say 13-13-13. When a plant is fruiting, it is common to feed only potassium.. using something like MOP. If you want detailed advice of what to feed, how much and when look at TyTaylors fertilizer sheet on his page. You can adapt it to whatever you have available with some simple math.

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