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09-03-2010, 09:16 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Coconut, seeds ofdifferent varieties/hybrids?
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I was wondering if anybody of you guys is growing special varieties of Cocos nucifera, such as 'Fiji Dwarf' or 'Red Spicata Dwarf' or any other interessting vaiety which start to flower very young and don't get to tall. I want to try out to germinate them. Seedling may be a little problem, due to regulations, but seeds are save to ship to Europe and there's no certificate required as long as it is private and only a small amount of seeds. But any way, I would also take seedlings, because customs in Greece are not very much checking the content. I haven't had any problems with banans in the past. Also any information on the different varieties is appreciated. Thanks Bernd |
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I was, but it rotted a long time ago.
They are difficult to grow here in winter, because the central heating dries up the air in the room. They need high air humidity.
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But for (today) unknown reasons it died soon after the first roots came out of the nut. I was kid these days and just tried... Now, I want to try again. If anybody knows a nursery who offers different varieties of coconut palms, please let me know. |
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Just found a shop! They would ship me two fresh Samoan (Fiji) Dwarf coconut seeds!
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09-05-2010, 04:18 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Provided that you give them big and wide enough pot, they could even reach optimal size in your climate... I wonder if they could fruit though.
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But it'll make a nice plant in a pot for the summer on the balcony. May - Sept. should be fine for growing it outdoors and maybe it'll survive a few years. |
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La Palma, the westermost islands is also called the 'green island'. It get's almost 600 mm annual rain. Some parts of this island get up to 1000 mm annualy. But most of the rain is falling in winter, so they're at least summer dry. My place in Thessaloniki gets about 450 mm annual rain. |
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Prolonged drought is less of a problem for coco palms than prolonged cold.
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We'll see. The variety I ordered is not any different to the others regarding temperatures and water demand, but it should grow slower, flower earlier (if possible here anyway) and just reach a maximum height of 30 ft, but usually less, not even 20 ft. That's still to big for a potted plant in normal home, but maybe I can keep it for a longer time... And they'll love the summers here. A lot of heat! My mean minimum temperatures from May - Sept. are usually high enough, above 18°C, with just a few exceptions at the beginning of May and the end of Sept.. Only a few times, and usually just for a few hours the temperatures can drop lower than 15 °C at the start or end of summer period. Mean max. temps are over 25°C in May/Sept. and more of course in between. |
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Coco is the holy grail of palms, so people are pushing palms' limits...
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Pushing plant's limits is always dangerous and may (often) result in death - especially if you push the holy grail. And the recent crosses of Cocos haven't brought much experience so far. If I remember right there's a Butia x Cocos or Cocos x Butia, but the plants are still small. The real holy grail would be cold hardy coconut palm |
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I googled back Gabe's link and found for you this website he posted here some time ago. It's a very nice reference site for any (sub)tropical horticulturalist. Scroll down and find Cocos nucifera. There's lots of info in a very aesthetically and informationally pleasing way. Also citruses... www.traditionaltree.org
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Maybe to effectively conclude the information and links in this thread, I should also give link to this interesting image. It's not 100% right, but can be used as a reference... natural coconut distribution map
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Good luck to you, Bernd. Wish I could try that here in zone 7! Sigh.... And thanks for the map, Jack.
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