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Old 10-05-2015, 04:04 PM   #1201 (permalink)
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Some kind of Cavendish from Cuba


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Old 10-07-2015, 08:41 AM   #1202 (permalink)
 
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That cuban cavendish looks like one I have that I haven't been able to id, I got mine from a trailer park.
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Nice to see the FHIA-3 doesn't get very tall.
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Nice to see the FHIA-3 doesn't get very tall.
I wouldn't count on it being short everywhere. TARS says it is 3.5 meters, should be slightly taller than FHIA-1. I have a FHIA-1 next to it, and it is not as tall.
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This shows the approx. height of our sweetheart (daughter is 5'4" for height reference). Both have fruited at this height for us.

You might notice our pitiful agristarts goldfinger in the back right toppled over (with messy rachis). My husband spoke with Going Bananas about the agristarts goldfinger and they think the issue isn't with the original tissue they received, but something that happened with the culture process. My husband said the FHIA1 they have growing in the field look/taste as described.

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This shows the approx. height of our sweetheart (daughter is 5'4" for height reference). Both have fruited at this height for us.

You might notice our pitiful agristarts goldfinger in the back right toppled over (with messy rachis). My husband spoke with Going Bananas about the agristarts goldfinger and they think the issue isn't with the original tissue they received, but something that happened with the culture process. My husband said the FHIA1 they have growing in the field look/taste as described.
Thanks, so it isn't a very tall one and it looks like the bunch is easy to get to. My Agristarts FHIA-01s generally collapse on themselves too. From what I understand the Going Bananas Goldfinger isn't the real thing, so whatever happened in the tissue culture process probably doesn't matter too much.
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Baloy, which is a very dwarf Cavendish. Perfect for a greenhouse.

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How many hands on the 21?

The FHIA-03 puts out some massive bunches for such a short plant.






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Dare Banana - around 4' tall

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What is a dare banana? Looks like a 4' tall namwah type. If this is true, I want one!
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What is a dare banana? Looks like a 4' tall namwah type. If this is true, I want one!
This will be our first time tasting it. This cultivar is held a a few of the repositories.
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What is a dare banana? Looks like a 4' tall namwah type. If this is true, I want one!
A Dare is in the Laknau subgroup, it's about 10' tall and is not a dwarf banana like in the photo.

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"Distinctive cooking banana having in common a French-bunch type
and a tall pseudostem

The most relevant feature of this subdivision of the cooking banana
subgroup is that during their natural hybridization process the A genome
was transferred from the Papuan M. acuminata spp. banksii
rather than from the Asian M. acuminata (Lebot et al., 1993). Clones
under this subdivision produce fruits with organoleptic qualities similar
to those of the genuine cooking bananas. There are two Lacknau
clones in the collection, PI 23472 and PI 23479, that were originally
classified in the AAB or true plantain group (Valmayor et al., 1981), but
were later reclassified as distinctive cooking bananas (Lebot et al.,
1993; 1994). These were introduced from SIATSA, Honduras. Their
pseudostem is green. The comparison between clones demonstrated
that introduction PI 23472 developed a significantly thicker pseudostem,
required substantially more days for fruit filling, and produced
significantly heavier fruits (Table 2). There was no significant difference
between the two clones for the other plant, bunch and individual
fruit traits studied. The information obtained was not enough to maintain
a separate clonal identity. However, PI 23472 and other Lacknau
clones have been reported to possess field resistance to the corm weevil
(Cosmopolites sordidus Germar) (Irizarry et al., 1988). Clone PI 23479
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A Dare is in the Laknau subgroup, it's about 10' tall and is not a dwarf banana like in the photo.

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"Distinctive cooking banana having in common a French-bunch type
and a tall pseudostem

The most relevant feature of this subdivision of the cooking banana
subgroup is that during their natural hybridization process the A genome
was transferred from the Papuan M. acuminata spp. banksii
rather than from the Asian M. acuminata (Lebot et al., 1993). Clones
under this subdivision produce fruits with organoleptic qualities similar
to those of the genuine cooking bananas. There are two Lacknau
clones in the collection, PI 23472 and PI 23479, that were originally
classified in the AAB or true plantain group (Valmayor et al., 1981), but
were later reclassified as distinctive cooking bananas (Lebot et al.,
1993; 1994). These were introduced from SIATSA, Honduras. Their
pseudostem is green. The comparison between clones demonstrated
that introduction PI 23472 developed a significantly thicker pseudostem,
required substantially more days for fruit filling, and produced
significantly heavier fruits (Table 2). There was no significant difference
between the two clones for the other plant, bunch and individual
fruit traits studied. The information obtained was not enough to maintain
a separate clonal identity. However, PI 23472 and other Lacknau
clones have been reported to possess field resistance to the corm weevil
(Cosmopolites sordidus Germar) (Irizarry et al., 1988). Clone PI 23479
has not been evaluated for this attribute. Until this evaluation is performed,
these clones should be maintained as separate entities."

Ours came from GRIN (from the field) in Miami. We also received Poni from GRIN - but the TARS sight shows Poni as something different (not a purple variant of Ele Ele, as I had thought Poni was described other places).

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Ours came from GRIN (from the field) in Miami. We also received Poni from GRIN - but the TARS sight shows Poni as something different (not a purple variant of Ele Ele, as I had thought Poni was described other places).
Miami received their Dare Laknua from the International Network for the Improvement of Banana and Plantain on 15-Dec-1993.

TARS received their Dare Laknua from Miami on 25-Oct-2006.

After examining the 3 Laknua accessions, TARS concluded they were all the same plant and now only offers 1 accession.


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...however their photos of Poni do not look anything like bananas in the Maoli group.
Probably because TARS lists their Poni in the Pome group (Brazilian, Raja Puri) and not as a purple variant of Ele Ele in the Maoli group.

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From the curator at GRIN:
"I went and checked. We have three plots labeled “Dare” and all three are fruiting at about 4’. On one end is Cuban Red (which would stick out like sore thumb) and the other end is Datil La Lima. It is hard to judge the size, but the fruit is distinctive."
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From the curator at GRIN:
"I went and checked. We have three plots labeled “Dare” and all three are fruiting at about 4’. On one end is Cuban Red (which would stick out like sore thumb) and the other end is Datil La Lima. It is hard to judge the size, but the fruit is distinctive."
After you figure out what banana you're growing, be sure to let the curator at GRIN know what bananas they have growing in the three plots that they labeled as “Dare”.

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