Second Annual Upper Gulf Coast Banana Meet 2013 - Page 7

Kat2 · 10-16-2013, 03:34 PM

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DisneyButterfly1 · 10-16-2013, 04:09 PM

So let me stir up a little chat with you all. When & what do you do for the winter to protect bananas? Anyone have any photos of how you wrap your plants you want to fruit the next year? This is my first time not bringing them in to the greenhouse.

Snookie · 10-16-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DisneyButterfly1

So let me stir up a little chat with you all. When & what do you do for the winter to protect bananas? Anyone have any photos of how you wrap your plants you want to fruit the next year? This is my first time not bringing them in to the greenhouse.

OK, I'll start I DO NOTHING, I'm too lazy:}

Hope dat helped, lol

flaflowerfloozie · 10-16-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DisneyButterfly1

So let me stir up a little chat with you all. When & what do you do for the winter to protect bananas? Anyone have any photos of how you wrap your plants you want to fruit the next year? This is my first time not bringing them in to the greenhouse.

I'm a little warmer then you during the winter but I took on some not so cold tolerant types this year. I plan on taking some of that plastic green fencing with some bamboo as stakes and creating a big ring I guess about 18-24 inch from the trunk and filling it with leaves and hope for the best with the insulation from the leaves against the wind. That's the plan anyway unless I see a better solution while I am bouncing around here, but it's just not an option for me to drag 17 different types of bananas indoors from the ground with everything else I have that is in pots already. Right before the first big hit of cold it's just a slow going panic making sure everything is not bug free but at least spider free. We have Giant crab spiders here and if you have ever seen them you know you don't want them in the house...yikes!
So that's my plan anyway.

flaflowerfloozie · 10-16-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Snookie

OK, I'll start I DO NOTHING, I'm too lazy:}

Hope dat helped, lol

Awww come on Snookie! You just let them melt to the ground?
I would be aghast if I came out and everything was all slimmy mush in the making...I shutter to think!

Snookie · 10-16-2013, 07:30 PM

I let them simply unprotected chill last year and had three plants set fruit and produce nanna's so.......

Why mess with a good plan lol?

Only preparation I do is buy a new electric blanket every few years for me and let her rip:}

It's ALL GOOD in D neighborhood:}

DisneyButterfly1 · 10-16-2013, 07:35 PM

Thanks flaflowerfloozie...Yuk...OH NOPE I No do spiders!!!!

I would run fast from those critters

hahahaha Snookie...Yep you are a real cookie...poor baby bananas...

But seriously...I may do less next winter. But this year they have not been in the ground very long. Most of them I just planted.
Mary Ann

flaflowerfloozie · 10-16-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snookie

I let them simply unprotected chill last year and had three plants set fruit and produce nanna's so.......

Why mess with a good plan lol?

Only preparation I do is buy a new electric blanket every few years for me and let her rip:}

It's ALL GOOD in D neighborhood:}

I did put some thought into where I put the tender ones, in more protected areas from the wind, my main concern is my 1000 fingers I don't know that they live this far north? So I have been thinking about potting up a pup to bring indoors (the only one I would bring indoors)...there all under 4 foot tall now so it's not a big deal on the 1000 fingers.
Fantastic you got fruit on your herbs even if they got some damage.
I'll keep that in mind and try not to panic..LOL

flaflowerfloozie · 10-16-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DisneyButterfly1

Thanks flaflowerfloozie...Yuk...OH NOPE I No do spiders!!!!

I would run fast from those critters

hahahaha Snookie...Yep you are a real cookie...poor baby bananas...

But seriously...I may do less next winter. But this year they have not been in the ground very long. Most of them I just planted.
Mary Ann

I as well have mear babies and some I started from seed, besides my Ensete Glaucum which are now almost to the roof in just this past year (Cold hearty so not worried) I think my largest is right about 6 foot tall (Helen's hybrid) and the next would be about 4 foot 1000 fingers and they go down down down from there to about 18 inch seedlings.

I can do ANYTHING snakes, rats, big beatles, strange unknown things but don't let me come into the same space with something that has 8 eyes and 8 legs and will chase you weeding mulch, fall on you from tree branches and hunch up at you ready to pounce...the icky thing is as big as the palm of your hand, some bigger! Creeps me out thinking about it

DisneyButterfly1 · 10-17-2013, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by flaflowerfloozie

I as well have mear babies and some I started from seed, besides my Ensete Glaucum which are now almost to the roof in just this past year (Cold hearty so not worried) I think my largest is right about 6 foot tall (Helen's hybrid) and the next would be about 4 foot 1000 fingers and they go down down down from there to about 18 inch seedlings.

I can do ANYTHING snakes, rats, big beatles, strange unknown things but don't let me come into the same space with something that has 8 eyes and 8 legs and will chase you weeding mulch, fall on you from tree branches and hunch up at you ready to pounce...the icky thing is as big as the palm of your hand, some bigger! Creeps me out thinking about it

Yep They are my main issue as well. Had a brown recluse bite me on the ankle a number of years ago so I DO NOT DO Friends with Spiders.

If i understood several talking on winter protection...I think I will be trying:

Fencing of some sort, leaves & grass or wood mulches "inside the fencing around the pups and newer plants" for sure. Wrap the outside of the fencing with frost cloth (my choice to try this year, I think). Then I thought tie rope, jute or such around that for those super windy days.

Questions:
1. Heard someone mention adding manure around mat as part of the winter protection? Would I pile that at the ground level with the mulch?
2. Someone mentioned folding leaves down around the plant, tying loosely before the fencing.

I realize after this season I may be able to relax on this some what, but this year I want to Protect more. Just hope I do not kill them with love...

Darkman · 10-17-2013, 07:17 AM

Still waiting on more pictures I know where taken.

@ DB1 When you and Joe come over I will walk you through my Winter preparation. We still have a good bit of time. You should start collecting dry leaves and pinestraw to fill the cages.

Charles

flaflowerfloozie · 10-17-2013, 09:43 AM

Questions:
1. Heard someone mention adding manure around mat as part of the winter protection? Would I pile that at the ground level with the mulch?
2. Someone mentioned folding leaves down around the plant, tying loosely before the fencing.

I realize after this season I may be able to relax on this some what, but this year I want to Protect more. Just hope I do not kill them with love...[/quote]

1. Personally I am not doing the manure for over wintering. Bananas stop growing much if at all after 40? Degrees. My fear is that it just sits there and has the ability to burn and is a waste for winter.

2. I thought about getting some burlap bags for the leaves but it was a fleeting thought, mine are so small anyway, I'm more concerned about the P-stem and the corms, our winters go from one extreme to another quickly we can be 30 one day and 70 the next ...I would go insane with fighting the leaf fungus because of the rains.

For my ginger and heliconia garden which are butt up against the neighbors fence I use that same green fencing, in the wood border I had the honey drill holes for the PVC stakes and I zip tie the fence to it and fill the "BOX" with leaves, some of my gingers are so intolerant to cold, but they fair really well with this system and then the bonus is I have suffocated the weeds I missed as well, by the time winter is just about over everything has settled down and I have to remove very little and all new shoots are coming up to greet spring.

Darkman · 10-17-2013, 09:52 AM

I think it is important to note that bananas contain a lot of water. I will only fold down dried leaves no green ones. My reasoning is that I want a dry insulative environment as water will not insulate well and will start decomposition. I want it sealed and dry. Those conditions are best for Winter protection.

DisneyButterfly1 · 10-17-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkman

I think it is important to note that bananas contain a lot of water. I will only fold down dried leaves no green ones. My reasoning is that I want a dry insulative environment as water will not insulate well and will start decomposition. I want it sealed and dry. Those conditions are best for Winter protection.

Ohhhhh So glad you mentioned that. I had not though about that. I do know I was cautioned about being careful not to use Plastic to wrap for that reason and that it might also cook the plants (greenhouse effect) since we are so bad about warming up here in Pensacola.

Thanks Darkman, you save a Nanner or two!!

DisneyButterfly1 · 10-17-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by flaflowerfloozie

1. Personally I am not doing the manure for over wintering. Bananas stop growing much if at all after 40? Degrees. My fear is that it just sits there and has the ability to burn and is a waste for winter.

2. I thought about getting some burlap bags for the leaves but it was a fleeting thought, mine are so small anyway, I'm more concerned about the P-stem and the corms, our winters go from one extreme to another quickly we can be 30 one day and 70 the next ...I would go insane with fighting the leaf fungus because of the rains.

For my ginger and heliconia garden which are butt up against the neighbors fence I use that same green fencing, in the wood border I had the honey drill holes for the PVC stakes and I zip tie the fence to it and fill the "BOX" with leaves, some of my gingers are so intolerant to cold, but they fair really well with this system and then the bonus is I have suffocated the weeds I missed as well, by the time winter is just about over everything has settled down and I have to remove very little and all new shoots are coming up to greet spring.

WOW Some great thoughts, Great idea for the ginger & heliconia. I have a spot where that will be perfect to test

ummm so true on the "fighting fungus issues" I would have that here I'm sure.

Thanks flaflowerfloozie! Love this group...so much information warmly & gladly shared

Darkman · 10-22-2013, 05:19 AM

I have no as yet received any additional photos from that day but I have taken some photos this week that I will post here to show more of my plants and place.

Darkman · 10-24-2013, 07:50 PM

OK here are a few more taken by Judy!

Unknown Fig

ShrimpPlant

Pinecone AKA Shampoo Ginger brought by Coast Crab for sharing

Orinoco Mat in Blueberry bed

Fuyu Persimmon with Bamboo and EE’s in back

Fuyu Persimmon

Carolyn and Iris on Waterfall cave entrance steps

Another Orinoco mat with Dwarf Reds in Background

Waterfall

I'll try to add the ones I took after the fact this weekend

Kat2 · 10-24-2013, 07:58 PM

My guess is Brown Turkey.

Snookie · 12-23-2013, 06:26 PM

Merry Christmas Everyone

As promised, I am posting a few pictures from the avocado plant that Skeet was kind enough to graft and give to me:}

It seems to be doing great despite the new owners reputation for killing avocadoes lol

He told me the name/variety of the plant but I forgot what it is:{

A woman's name from Texas as I recall lol

See pictures below

Peace B with U

Fred

Abnshrek · 12-23-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Snookie

Merry Christmas Everyone
As promised, I am posting a few pictures from the avocado plant that Skeet was kind enough to graft and give to me:}
It seems to be doing great despite the new owners reputation for killing avocadoes lol
He told me the name/variety of the plant but I forgot what it is:{
A woman's name from Texas as I recall lol
See pictures below
Peace B with U
Fred

Its not the Famous Dolly Parton Avocado is it? lol :^)

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