Musa AeAe help!!!

OllieB497 · 05-24-2021, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

Hi. I have this Musa Aeae that suffered from root rot. I cleaned up the roots and cut back some yellow leaves. The corm still seems alive with a couple whitish roots. Not sure how to attach pics. Any tips on potting it so it regrows roots. Thanks!

sorry mate. mine looked exactly like that and it died. put it up in free draining soil on a heat matt. if nothing grows cut back. maybe cut the dead off. or the rot spreads.

Greenie · 05-27-2021, 02:14 PM

sad to see the thin plants with little to no corm some members pay for.
that plant had little to no chance to make it unless you take extreme measures to save it.

Don’t buy online overseas!!!!!!

where did you get yours may I ask?

OllieB497 · 05-27-2021, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

I live in canada and I got it from someone in Canada who imported it previously and acclimatized for a couple months and it was putting out new leaves in their care. They did a really good job and I got it with roots, but unfortunately I overwatered it and all the roots went to mush in like 48h. Last night I checked on it and cleaned the black on the corm and the remaining corm is still white with about 5 1inch long tiny fragile roots that are whitish/brownish, more like a beige colour. I put it in a small clear pot with about 75% perlite and 25% mycorrhizae. I did not water it. It’s in a tent with temperature 22-25°C and humidity around 75%. I plant on babying it as much as I can, I just wanna save the corm. I cut off all but 1 leaf, the newest one to reduce water loss. The pstem and leaf is still green with no signs rot or anything. Healthy green looking. Any tips or help would be much appreciated.

Ima be brutally honest with you. But the likely hood of it surviving is small, aeaes Florida are fussy sons of *******. I say u have a 3/10 chance. I mean it’s possible but once aeaes are damaged plus the fact u don’t live in a tropical climate mean it’s gonna be hard and long. I’m just saying don’t get your hopes up as mine in the UK died abs it crushed me lol

OllieB497 · 05-27-2021, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

I appreciate the honesty. I’m trying to be realistic with the situation, but also wanna try my hardest and do as much as I can for it. All I can do it hope and give it time.

I fully get it dude. I was the same mine deteriorated very wuicky. If you don’t see any news growth or any sign of life within 2 weeks it’s more than likely dead. It’s tough but it can still happen. So don’t give up but don’t get ur hope up also otherwise it’s more depressing

JaredZone9a · 05-27-2021, 04:31 PM

They say you can’t over water a banana, but I’m not so sure of that. :-(

cincinnana · 05-27-2021, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

I appreciate the honesty. I’m trying to be realistic with the situation, but also wanna try my hardest and do as much as I can for it. All I can do it hope and give it time.

Show us some photos of the plant??

cincinnana · 05-27-2021, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

I live in canada and I got it from someone in Canada who imported it previously and acclimatized for a couple months and it was putting out new leaves in their care. They did a really good job and I got it with roots, but unfortunately I overwatered it and all the roots went to mush in like 48h. Last night I checked on it and cleaned the black on the corm and the remaining corm is still white with about 5 1inch long tiny fragile roots that are whitish/brownish, more like a beige colour. I put it in a small clear pot with about 75% perlite and 25% mycorrhizae. I did not water it. It’s in a tent with temperature 22-25°C and humidity around 75%. I plant on babying it as much as I can, I just wanna save the corm. I cut off all but 1 leaf, the newest one to reduce water loss. The pstem and leaf is still green with no signs rot or anything. Healthy green looking. Any tips or help would be much appreciated.

A fella named ollie in the uk is crushing the plant as we speak.....check out his threads

cincinnana · 05-27-2021, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

https://photos.app.goo.gl/YiwTHo6tuotBdR6R9

That’s the link to the photos^. That is the corm before I cleaned it up. Cleaned all that black off, so it is white now. Also removed rot.

Looking fine.....

What was your source for the plant??

cincinnana · 05-27-2021, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

I live in Canada and got it from a Canadian plant importer who imported it and acclimatized it for a couple months before sending it to me.

You should share the name of your source....lots of forum members are trying to get some cool plants across the border.
Another great reliable source would be helpful.

If you could share the costs incurred would be great.

sirdoofus · 05-28-2021, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaredZone9a

They say you can’t over water a banana, but I’m not so sure of that. :-(

I can promise you it is most definitely possible to over water a banana!! Maybe more difficult in the middle of a good growing season for an in ground plant. However, in pots, especially in the more northerly cool season, absolutely not only possible but if not careful, easy!! I know, 'cause I've done it several times......oops!

sirdoofus · 05-28-2021, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

I live in Canada and got it from a Canadian plant importer who imported it and acclimatized it for a couple months before sending it to me.

Where in Canada are you?

sirdoofus · 05-28-2021, 11:54 AM

There is most definitely at least one avid grower in your neck of the woods and there are at least a couple of reputable, I believe, sellers of plants other than basjoo in Canada...if you are interested let me know and I will forward the information. Good luck with your Ae Ae

sirdoofus · 05-28-2021, 10:40 PM

I am guessing there are probably more but these are the two that I am familiar with. I ordered dwarf orinoco from TOC and received 2 very nice plants. Haven't ordered from Phoenix farms personally but a good friend who buys from them (not bananas) recommended them to me for other plants and I just happened to notice they also sell less common, for Canada, bananas. But you'll notice their nomenclature isn't exactly standard, so it might be worth a call to clarify if you do decide to order.

https://mailorder.phoenixperennials....h=musa&Submit=

We specialize in tropical, food bearing plants, that will grow and thrive in the Canadian environment.

Of course if you want a bigger order comprising a larger selection of varieties and are willing to pay a little extra for phytosanitary certificate and such, Larry at https://www.bananatreesforsale.com/ has an outstanding reputation for a quality product and excellent service. As I understand it though you need to order directly from him, can't order internationally through his website.

bananimal · 05-29-2021, 02:51 PM

The bottom line for growing the AeAe successfully is -------------

For outdoors you have to live in South Florida or Hawaii.

Or you must have a heated green house!

Backyard Banana Joe · 05-29-2021, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananimal

The bottom line for growing the AeAe successfully is -------------

For outdoors you have to live in South Florida or Hawaii.

Or you must have a heated green house!

maybe..... however I think if you can first let it get established, you can grow them outside farther north. I knew someone who had one fruit outside in the ground here in central Florida. It is possible.... just need to let it get established while it isn’t cold.... Once it is established, I think it could handle a little cold. Heh, if Cavendish can survive here, why can’t AeAe? Lol I failed twice here but that’s just because it was too cold when I was trying to root it.

Tytaylor77 · 06-03-2021, 09:40 AM

I know this is going to sound crazy but one of my aeae mats planted outside right on the southeast corner of my greenhouse survived our insane winter here in Texas! It got down to 7f!! It had about 1’ of hay as protection. It is a very established mat! 4 pups are growing strong! I lost all every outside Florida mat. Also a lot of AA and AAA types.

OllieB497 · 06-05-2021, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcasey34

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...hReDhfUFJSU2JB

Hey for anyone who wants an update, my Musa has grown a new root!!!!! (Pics are in the link above) About 4 days ago I decided to deadhead it and see what happens. I went to work for 5 hours and came back to a little growth above the cut, which I found surprising that this would happen in literally 5h. I then decided to start putting the bin outside in the sun all day long to replicate Florida temperatures as best as I could. The bin is approx 31°C in full sun all day and 24°C at night and 80% humidity always. The Musa gets full sun filtered through the clear bin. Anyways after a couple days of being in the warmer sunnier conditions, I took a look at the corm tonight and saw a new root growing!!!!!! The the pstem is green and healthy looking with no signs of sun damage and the small new pstem growth is a healthy green as well. Looks like all it needed was heat and a little bit of florida!

The next time I water it I might use some unsalted pasta water as I’ve read that’s a good way to give a fragile plant some nutrients without burning it with fertilizer. Thanks for all the support from everyone and this banana community!

That’s great news. Beware of rot. Your never off the hook when it comes to
Rot. Be careful good luck

smeash · 06-05-2021, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77

I know this is going to sound crazy but one of my aeae mats planted outside right on the southeast corner of my greenhouse survived our insane winter here in Texas! It got down to 7f!! It had about 1’ of hay as protection. It is a very established mat! 4 pups are growing strong! I lost all every outside Florida mat. Also a lot of AA and AAA types.

Thats pretty amazing! My AEAE went in the ground mid april and was looking ROUGH with 60 night and 80 degree days. Now that its hot and humid it kicked out a pup and is taking off! I certainly underestimated their love for heat.. Glad to see you back on here Ty.. I cant imagine the damage you had to your plants after that storm. Best wishes to get back running!

05-24-2021, 01:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
mcasey34 Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 1 BananaBucks : 2,204 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 5 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Yeah . Last edited by mcasey34 : 06-27-2021 at 04:10 PM.

05-27-2021, 02:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Greenie Greenie's Photo Gallery Location: Fl. Find me on the map! Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,301 BananaBucks : 210,110 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 300 Times Was Thanked 1,362 Times in 388 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Musa AeAe help!!! sad to see the thin plants with little to no corm some members pay for. that plant had little to no chance to make it unless you take extreme measures to save it. Don’t buy online overseas!!!!!! where did you get yours may I ask?

05-27-2021, 04:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
JaredZone9a Location: Bacliff, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 9a Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 244 BananaBucks : 25,808 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 410 Times Was Thanked 159 Times in 107 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times	Re: Musa AeAe help!!! They say you can’t over water a banana, but I’m not so sure of that. :-(

05-28-2021, 11:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
sirdoofus Location: Central Vancouver Island, BC Canada Find me on the map! Zone: AgCan 7b, USDA 6b Name: Mike Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,090 BananaBucks : 30,987 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,225 Times Was Thanked 1,275 Times in 634 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 98 Times	Re: Musa AeAe help!!! There is most definitely at least one avid grower in your neck of the woods and there are at least a couple of reputable, I believe, sellers of plants other than basjoo in Canada...if you are interested let me know and I will forward the information. Good luck with your Ae Ae __________________ Who keeps calling me nuts?? Last edited by sirdoofus : 05-28-2021 at 11:56 AM. Reason: add qualifier

05-28-2021, 10:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
sirdoofus Location: Central Vancouver Island, BC Canada Find me on the map! Zone: AgCan 7b, USDA 6b Name: Mike Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,090 BananaBucks : 30,987 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,225 Times Was Thanked 1,275 Times in 634 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 98 Times	Re: Musa AeAe help!!! I am guessing there are probably more but these are the two that I am familiar with. I ordered dwarf orinoco from TOC and received 2 very nice plants. Haven't ordered from Phoenix farms personally but a good friend who buys from them (not bananas) recommended them to me for other plants and I just happened to notice they also sell less common, for Canada, bananas. But you'll notice their nomenclature isn't exactly standard, so it might be worth a call to clarify if you do decide to order. https://mailorder.phoenixperennials....h=musa&Submit= We specialize in tropical, food bearing plants, that will grow and thrive in the Canadian environment. Of course if you want a bigger order comprising a larger selection of varieties and are willing to pay a little extra for phytosanitary certificate and such, Larry at https://www.bananatreesforsale.com/ has an outstanding reputation for a quality product and excellent service. As I understand it though you need to order directly from him, can't order internationally through his website. __________________ Who keeps calling me nuts?? Last edited by sirdoofus : 05-28-2021 at 10:52 PM. Reason: .

Members currently in the chatroom: 0
	The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009. No one is currently using the chat.

05-29-2021, 02:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
bananimal Member bananimal's Photo Gallery Location: Port St Lucie, Fla Find me on the map! Zone: 10a Name: Dan Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,512 BananaBucks : 616,321 Feedback: 12 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,688 Times Was Thanked 4,979 Times in 1,509 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 191 Times	Re: Musa AeAe help!!! The bottom line for growing the AeAe successfully is ------------- For outdoors you have to live in South Florida or Hawaii. Or you must have a heated green house!

06-03-2021, 09:40 AM	#17 (permalink)
Tytaylor77 Banana Plants for Trade Location: East Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b Name: Ty Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,367 BananaBucks : 51,725 Feedback: 11 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,608 Times Was Thanked 3,726 Times in 1,185 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 424 Times	Re: Musa AeAe help!!! I know this is going to sound crazy but one of my aeae mats planted outside right on the southeast corner of my greenhouse survived our insane winter here in Texas! It got down to 7f!! It had about 1’ of hay as protection. It is a very established mat! 4 pups are growing strong! I lost all every outside Florida mat. Also a lot of AA and AAA types. __________________ 150+ Varieties!!. See profile for list. Help me add more! CLICK HERE TO SEE PICTURES OF MY MUSA COLLECTION! www.bananapups.com

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Rare Musa in the UK MUSA AEAE wanted	OllieB497	Main Banana Discussion	5	12-13-2020 10:32 AM
Musa aeae vs musa dang florida	OllieB497	Main Banana Discussion	2	12-04-2020 02:14 PM
Looking for a Musa AEAE	natej740	Banana Plants For Sale & Auction	1	08-29-2020 10:47 PM
Musa 'aeae', Musa 'ae ae', Musa AeAe, Musa aeae, Musa 'AeAe', ae ae, AeAe, aeae, AEAE	sunfish	Main Banana Discussion	9	07-16-2014 05:26 PM
musa siam ruby , Musa aeae , Double mahoi.	Benny Van Broeck	Banana Plants Wanted	4	04-02-2013 10:23 PM