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Old 12-22-2022, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Looks like many of us in the states are going to lose our bananas this year
Nowhere in Texas is safe. Even half of Florida will get below freezing.
Besides bringing our potted bananas indoors it doesn't seem like there is much we can do. RIP

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Old 12-22-2022, 04:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the first year i put bananas in the ground, the beginning of january, we had 14 days in a row with 12 days below 32 degrees. i had just about 20 mats in. it didnt really hurt them that much.

but they are saying were going to be at 20 degrees saturday morning and 4 days in a row with temps below 32. dang
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Good luck and stay warm! Our forecast is 35 so I'm hoping the frost doesn't settle on the leaves. Last year it did.
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the first year i put bananas in the ground, the beginning of january, we had 14 days in a row with 12 days below 32 degrees. i had just about 20 mats in. it didnt really hurt them that much.

but they are saying were going to be at 20 degrees saturday morning and 4 days in a row with temps below 32. dang
Yeah it's going to be brutal. The last time I experienced this much cold was during the Texas winter storm not long ago early 2021. It killed all my bananas down to the ground but the the corms all survived and sprouted back in spring.
Just sucks having them have to start over.
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Ugh thats nasty. Good luck!
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might be a bit late but if you have some double wall poly carbonate laying around you could try making a box and heating with c9 christmas lights on a thermo cube

i have been watching this guys videos and he is north of me... inspirational... i would like to try this with some plants eventually

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alternatively you could have two layers of clear plastic/greenhouse poly/ clear vapour barrier on either side of a wood frame to create an airspace between the layers and use c9 christmas lights on a thermo cube
green dragan uses the thermo cube that keeps the temp between 2 and 7C or 35 and 45F
depending on the plant you might want to get the next warmest thermo cube
you can also just leave the lights on but you would need to monitor the temperature to make sure it isnt getting too hot in there
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It's most likely Geoengineering.

The Chemtrailing and HARRP here on the west coast are producing this Arctic Blast through the middle of the country down from Canada. Nothing new.
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It's most likely Geoengineering.

The Chemtrailing and HARRP here on the west coast are producing this Arctic Blast through the middle of the country down from Canada. Nothing new.


Agree with this 100%!
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BRRRR -9ºF this morning here, but just winter in Iowa.
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Sad sight this morning. All my nanners froze.
It got down to 19F with 5F wind chill.
To be clear this is definitely not normal winter weather for us here in the south.
No doubt everything is going to die down to the ground.

I was able to save my variegated bananas, a truly tiny, and a small red which I had potted and brought indoors.
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Sad sight this morning. All my nanners froze.
It got down to 19F with 5F wind chill.
To be clear this is definitely not normal winter weather for us here in the south.
No doubt everything is going to die down to the ground.

I was able to save my variegated bananas, a truly tiny, and a small red which I had potted and brought indoors.
So sorry to hear this is definitely a historic cold event. Hopefully we get a break from these events for a while! If not I guess we have to get creative. You can put chicken wire around the bananas and stuff them full of straw, this protects the main pstem from freezing and they can recover more easily.
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I should have shared this a week ago so you all could be prepared. Here is what this gardener does so he can produce bananas in zone 8a.
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i like that one. the bottom straw would compost some and help for next year.

the downside would be the pups, it probably would kill them. but the plants would put out new ones too.
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Also I had -6°C in July 2021 in Lucianópolis in Brazil overnight, at this time my wife was in the hospital in Hamburg in Germany, so that we could move only on April 28th 2022 from Germany to Brazil. Most of my bananas survived in Brazil and came back like Musa basjoo in Germany. When here such one cold snap with Antarctic polar air does occur again, then the situation will be better because I do live here with residence permit (CRNM) and able to protect my bananas, palms, jackfruit trees and tropical fruit trees by possibilities of mulching, heating lamps, gas heating, wrapping and burning wood coal in barrels and boiling hot water in cans and barrels. So like some of you e.g. in Florida, Texas and California.

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Sad sight this morning. All my nanners froze.
It got down to 19F with 5F wind chill.
To be clear this is definitely not normal winter weather for us here in the south.
No doubt everything is going to die down to the ground.

I was able to save my variegated bananas, a truly tiny, and a small red which I had potted and brought indoors.

That's awful. Really discouraging to have that happen, again. Here's some advice though- watch out for global warming, it's going to be the death of us all!
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Old 12-24-2022, 06:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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We’re going to have temps dip below freezing 5 nights straight in south GA, all my tropicals are gunna be D E D, dead
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Just a reminder cool temperatures and tropical plants don't mix.
On the bright side our days are getting longer

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I think we got to 15 here one morning for two hrs. I just caged my bananas and throw clear bags over top and wrapped the cage with clear plastic sheeting. Threw tarps over other ones. Then past few mornings we have been in the 19’s.

That video from the guy in zone 5 was cool to watch. Seems like an expensive way to protect plants but looks awesome.Polycarbonate Panels from Lowes are $50.00ea and never heard or seen any window or door tracks like he used.
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in reading the comments i found where he posted his supplier which is in canada
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if i try something like this i may end up using greenhouse poly (actually vinyl is what i have a roll of)
and a wood frame with the layers of poly physically held separated by the wood frame
where i want to build i may have to do 3 or 4 layers(in combination with other methods) but as he says in the video the bigger the zone difference the more protection required
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