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Old 01-18-2023, 09:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Saw some videos where guys claim they have gotten fruit quicker by only leaving 2-3 leaves on mother plants. Anyone ever noticed faster growth with pruning their bananas? I leave all leaves except yellow or dried ones. Wondering if I should keep mine trimmed up, but donít like the look of so few leaves.
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Old 01-18-2023, 11:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i did that the first few years of growing bananas. i did not see much difference, if any at all. i figure where they get that is pulling the sucker leaves off
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around here, people like to cut the leaves off of sega palms to make them grow taller faster. they make them look like a palm tree. but they seem to die early and they have stunted leaves. i have sega's that are 25 years old and nice long leaves. still growing fine because i just leave them alone, sometimes cutting the dead leaves at the bottom. but only when they are dead.
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Plus, I looked at it the more leaves moisture keeps around the bottom and also the more leaves more photosynthesis that can happen.
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yes, a better battery charger. i don't recall getting any fruit while i was cutting the leaves back. plus, for us the more leaves hanging down in the winter time, MAY, protect the p-stem better from the cold. [higher 30's?]

of course at the time i was cutting them back i knew little of what i was doing.

kinda like a small goldfish in a 1,000 gallon tank. now i have grown slightly.
what i have observed with raja puri the smaller the plant the smaller the bunch. the less leaves the poorer the bunch. . . . if that has anything to do with it.
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All makes sense to me and how I feel. They came up with the idea, so I guess they feel that itís the reason why the plants are fruiting quicker. Variety is definitely going to play a part how quick it fruits. What stalls out some of my mother plants is the Factive I have so many pups on the mats and I donít like to kill off any extra pups. Sell and trade what I can. But donít have any with less than three on a mat.
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All makes sense to me and how I feel. They came up with the idea, so I guess they feel that itís the reason why the plants are fruiting quicker. Variety is definitely going to play a part how quick it fruits. What stalls out some of my mother plants is the Factive I have so many pups on the mats and I donít like to kill off any extra pups. Sell and trade what I can. But donít have any with less than three on a mat.
they came up with the idea and then the video without seeing the results,,,,, maybe. they had an idea. it happens a lot in this forum.

i am living on poor soil for growing bananas and not in a good zone. with that said.....for me i have had 0 luck at getting any to fruit with just one plant. what i have gotten to fruit thus far is in larger mats. some of my mats are 16 plants. all so, it seems,,,, they do better with my winters than just one plant in a mat. for me the more the marrier.
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I have gotten stuff to fruit with just a mother and pup and with several pups. I feed, water and mulch mine heavy so that gets them to fruit for me. I added lime to my soil and that made a huge difference last year. Also using 10-10-10 granular. Other fertilizers I used did nothing. Every ones yard is going to be different of course.
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in the summer i mulch light because my property is too well draining and i need to get the water to the bananas. this is the time i mulch heavy, the bananas are dormant somewhat and don't require that much water. i got 16 big bags of mulch from a guy that uses a bagger on his riding lawn mower. so i mulch as high as i can for each mat.

i had 7 raja puri fruit this year and had many mats that were that close to fruiting, i was very surprised they didnt.

i have a friend that has bananas of an unknown variety that lives less than 50 miles longitude wise that had near a dozen fruit. [they taste like raspberry] while the ones that she gave me get knocked down to the ground every winter.
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in the summer i mulch light because my property is too well draining and i need to get the water to the bananas. this is the time i mulch heavy, the bananas are dormant somewhat and don't require that much water. i got 16 big bags of mulch from a guy that uses a bagger on his riding lawn mower. so i mulch as high as i can for each mat.

i had 7 raja puri fruit this year and had many mats that were that close to fruiting, i was very surprised they didnt.

i have a friend that has bananas of an unknown variety that lives less than 50 miles longitude wise that had near a dozen fruit. [they taste like raspberry] while the ones that she gave me get knocked down to the ground every winter.
We need more info about the raspberry banana!

Yeah I have never seen a benefit from cutting leaves in fact having too few leaves is why I have yet to taste my tall namwa after about 5 bunches have failed. Once the last leaf dies all bets are off, at least in my experience.
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Yeah I have never seen a benefit from cutting leaves in fact having too few leaves is why I have yet to taste my tall namwa after about 5 bunches have failed. Once the last leaf dies all bets are off, at least in my experience.
i know enough about them to say they are not pisang ceylon.

they have a heavy raspberry taste with a slight banana flavour. a bit better than 3 inches long, phat, with thin skins that sometimes split while ripening. later in the year they [different bunches] change their taste to a heavy citrus flavor much like a manzano but with more citrus. they grow to 8ft. p-stem and around 8 inches at the base. they came from somewhere in the pacific by a friend, who is now deceased, that served there. another friend bought the place after he passed, i did not know he had them otherwise i would have these bananas over 25 years ago. lol

i can't get pics up to get them identified

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You should post up pictures of the banana and fruits sometime. My yard drains fast so stays really dry so I always get free mulch from the power company.
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Wow would love you to taste one of those. Nice if you posted up some pictures of the full plants. Someone on here would figure it out I bet.
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Wow would love you to taste one of those. Nice if you posted up some pictures of the full plants. Someone on here would figure it out I bet.
i cannot get pics one here and just a few thumbnails. pity

i found a couple of pics of the ensete glaucom nanners.
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I gave up years ago trying to post! Those are cool looking never saw one fruiting before. Too bad you never got pups from the mystery one.
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I gave up years ago trying to post! Those are cool looking never saw one fruiting before. Too bad you never got pups from the mystery one.
pups, who said i didnt get pups, lol. before it froze i had near 20 plants in 2 mats. if one in a pot [science project i will bring up later] that is going into a hole i already have prepared coming spring. i will be preparing more holes in the next upcoming monts.

here is a pic of my lady fingers today. the tallest right now is near 7ft. [p-stem] if i can get a good february i will have nanners from it. you can see the mulch below it. the cigar leaf when it rolls out will make it near 13 ft. with slender p-stems. awesome looking plant.
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Well then I see haha. Have you emailed Gabe with pictures of the whole plant, flower, fruit? Iím sure he would know what it was.

I donít have ladyfinger but have heard of it. Sounds good. Was at a nursery two years ago in Davenport and the lady wasnít sure what the small pups were she had planted. Werenít cavendish but had some wine markings. She thought lady fingers or something else. Wouldnít sell any as was wanting to get fruit and bigger mat.
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Well then I see haha. Have you emailed Gabe with pictures of the whole plant, flower, fruit? Iím sure he would know what it was.

I donít have ladyfinger but have heard of it. Sounds good. Was at a nursery two years ago in Davenport and the lady wasnít sure what the small pups were she had planted. Werenít cavendish but had some wine markings. She thought lady fingers or something else. Wouldnít sell any as was wanting to get fruit and bigger mat.
no, haven't e-mailed gabe.

my lady fingers have no color to them except green. i heard, on here, that there are 3 varieties that are called ladyfingers. they are not talked about much on this forum but i have never seed pics with wine colored leaves. i was at a local nursery here that had plants that were marked goldfinger and sweetheart. they did not look like mine, but looked like they were a cavendish. i talked to the lady who manages the nursery several times and do's not impress me as the truthful type.
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Most people think all bananas are the same they are selling I feel. A lot look alike thatís for sure so if no knowledge you wonít know what they could be. Never been in your county but any places in Polk County we visited mainly have cavendish. My buddy in Saint Cloud always has some awesome stuff though.
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all places here sell dc's and gran nains sometimes. while i do see some orinoco's out there, i have never seen them at the nurseries.
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Had to rewrap some that the 30mph winds pulled the plastic off. Few weeks ago we had 50mph winds and that made large mats plastic loose. Looking at the 10-12ft stalks of blue Java that fell over. I donít think the 16 degree temp for a low we had was the issue. As the stalks were solid just think the pressure of the plastic yanking on them at 50mph and shaking took them down.
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