Mia Cupola - the roof, the roof, the roof is much

Scuba_Dave · 07-09-2009, 06:21 PM

....Higher !!

Follow the cupola to the roof !!
1st floor - 24x36 garage - storage
1st wall going up

2nd floor - 24x36 Great room/bar/TV room

3rd floor 19x24 walk up attic

Here is a link to a few posts on othe rwork on my house

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Scuba_Dave · 07-09-2009, 06:29 PM

Don't try this at home!!
This move was acomplished by someone with no regard for his own safety
And no knowledge of anything restricting his ability to do this
There was a safety rope & safety blocks holding it in/down all the time
The only .....uh oh... moment was when it reached the top of the ramp & the tipping point.
After it was on the roof I then had to remove the rope keeping it from sliding down the ramp
And move it to keep the cupola from sliding down the roof
Then push it about 4' to the side
I need to build the mounting base at the peak - then up it goes

The tipping point

CValentine · 07-09-2009, 06:33 PM

Oh My Goodness Dave!!!

~Cheryl

Lagniappe · 07-09-2009, 06:33 PM

Dave, your cupola isn't level

I hope you post more pics when it's all done, looks like it's gonna be great!

Patty in Wisc · 07-09-2009, 07:36 PM

You be careful up there!!
Looks great...more pics!!

Scuba_Dave · 07-09-2009, 08:28 PM

I did have a steel cable /winch on it the entire time until it was on the roof
So partly the winch pulling it up, partly me manuevering it up the ramp
I sort of "walked" it up the ramp pushing on each side - then nailing down blocking
Then push the other side...more blocking
Winch it tight
Repeat as needed

The winch was $75 well spent

Scuba_Dave · 08-03-2009, 09:18 PM

It's up.......It's GOOD !!!

I can finish the roof now
I've already started siding the back
Ordering more siding to do the whole house
What summer...................

MediaHound · 08-03-2009, 09:25 PM

you got a permit for that mister?

seriously though, looking good, bravo..

Scuba_Dave · 08-03-2009, 09:32 PM

I have SO many permits out
It was easier that way
Everything was approved under 1 Conservation permit - due to a stream on the property
They told me I then had ONLY 2 years to start everything
Anything NOT started would have to go back thru the Conservation approval process (about 5 months)

So I started everything in 2 years...2004 1 permit, 2005 another......2006 another - the foundation for the garage (rest under another permit in 08) 2007 another....2008 another
Then last year I found out I actually had 3 years to start everything
So the plan this year & next is to finish up most projects

Then start another one - Kitchen remodel

Scuba_Dave · 09-02-2009, 08:17 PM

and the roof is almost done on the cupola
I need another box of slate

LilRaverBoi · 09-02-2009, 09:35 PM

Wow...looks great! I love cupola's...especially old metal ones on barns around my home in Iowa. They're really cool! Yours looks awesome on your place! Now all you need is a banana growing out the top! LOL j/k!

Scuba_Dave · 09-16-2009, 09:10 PM

Actually for Halloween "Frank" will be growing out of the cupola

I have 3 windows - not counting the 4th that faces the rear of the house, not sure what will be out of the other 2

Maybe I should take a poll??

Ghosts

Hulk

Tigger, Mickey or Poo ?

Christmas - Santa.....

Abominal snowman

Mickey

Frosty

This years going to be fun with more house to decorate
Frank goes up Oct 1st !!

Patty in Wisc · 09-16-2009, 09:44 PM

Very nice Dave!
I don't know about that Mickey with the fangs....he's just too scary for me!!!

justjoan · 09-17-2009, 07:45 AM

I just love it!!!! Halloween is my favorite and your place looks like the place to visit for sure.

Scuba_Dave · 09-25-2009, 02:57 PM

I've started siding the back of the house
It's looking pretty good so far, lots of cuts for the sunroom
So nice to have that soffit up.....birds liked to hang out up there on cold nights
Not any more !!

The before pic....even before I built the garage/addition
I'm now working on the right side of this pic - where tyvek was missing

LilRaverBoi · 09-25-2009, 03:01 PM

Yeah, all those inflatable things are pretty creepy, IMO. I wouldn't want them in my YARD...definitely not way up on top of my house! EEK!

Scuba_Dave · 10-17-2009, 03:56 PM

Another "quick" update
Replace/rebuild the bay window & installed new windows
I built the new bay window area beyond the existing one
Started last Sat, lousy weather, cold - but the roofs on & insulated

Old setup w/new joists installed

New...underneath will be lattice for trash barrels
The big window is 4x4 & top trim matches the front window

Scuba_Dave · 11-22-2009, 09:02 PM

Frank was sticking out of the Cupola for Halloween
Now Santa is up there for Christmas
All 4 windows are installed now

damaclese · 11-23-2009, 10:51 AM

Dave just for the sake of clarity. a bay window that is not supported on a bottom floor foundation is called an Orel. So what you had on the side of your home is called an Orel not a Bay. Orel's are supported on cantilevered joist or as was the case in your home a buttress.

By the way spectacular job. looks nice the cantilevered joist are stronger then the buttresses. they spread the stress of the weight out over a larger more stable area the Floor in this case. which in turn transfers the stress in to the two main parallel walls. where as the Buttress rely on the weight being carried by the single vertical outer wall. which over time will sag outward weakening the entire wall as well as the Headers that carry the load of the roof. this is the primary reason you don't see them used much any more that and there just out of stile.
Stylistically there is a romantic charm to Buttressed Orel's that the Cantilevered versions do not seem to poses this is just my opinion

Scuba_Dave · 03-20-2010, 08:09 PM

More work on the house completed
A nice week so I worked on the front of the house
New small side wall, new 1/2 wall on the front - both for more insulation
Took apart the bedroom wall from the outside & added insulation
So now between R13 and R32 for insulation along most of the front of the house

I have some more trim to do around the windows then I can finish the front up & start on the front porch
Top triangle will wait until probably last -that will be shingles w/rounded bottoms

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Scuba_Dave Location: South of Boston, MA Find me on the map! Zone: 6-7 Name: Dave Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 732 BananaBucks : 101,471 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 501 Times Was Thanked 1,218 Times in 451 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,414 Times	Re: Mia Cupola - the roof, the roof, the roof is much More work on the house completed A nice week so I worked on the front of the house New small side wall, new 1/2 wall on the front - both for more insulation Took apart the bedroom wall from the outside & added insulation So now between R13 and R32 for insulation along most of the front of the house I have some more trim to do around the windows then I can finish the front up & start on the front porch Top triangle will wait until probably last -that will be shingles w/rounded bottoms Last edited by Scuba_Dave : 03-21-2010 at 06:38 PM.

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