Time to separate the variegated pups - Page 2

mchris752 · 06-10-2023, 09:57 PM

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May 6, 23

$20

Jeff zone 8 N.C. · 06-11-2023, 06:28 AM

Very nice growth, especially for a shipped and recovered variegate. Good on PR-Giants and yourself for keeping these rare plants going. Is it a AeAe or Florida? Did you use PR-Giants sand mix or other? Thanks for your reply.

mchris752 · 06-11-2023, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C.

Very nice growth, especially for a shipped and recovered variegate. Good on PR-Giants and yourself for keeping these rare plants going. Is it a AeAe or Florida? Did you use PR-Giants sand mix or other? Thanks for your reply.

Its a florida, PR shipping is top notch, seems like he’s shipped a plant or two

Its not the same substrate, its lechuza basicpon. I have drainage holes and a screen at the bottom so it doesn’t fall out. I water after bottom half inch or so looks dried out, which is about every other day. I also add a couple drops of schultz all purpose liquid plant food at every watering.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. · 06-11-2023, 10:30 AM

Thanks for the tips on your methods. Had to look up lechuza basicpon. The price on line was around $14.00 but it looks like good stuff. I will look for a close supplier but have never seen it before. If I don't find one near I will order some to evaluate against Turface MVP which is what I am trying. I just recently started using Turface MVP which is a high temp baked calcined clay product that seems to have some of the same properties as Pon but is much cheaper. It cost me about $18.00 for a "too large to ship on UPS" 50 pound bag. My guesstimate is it is about 10 times the amount of product than in the Pon bags, but that is a guess. Basically it looks like tiny pieces of the old standard red clay nursery pots broken up. It supposed to have micro pores and both holds air and water and so microlife. Water pours right through it. Tons of air space. I am trying a Siam Ruby banana which seems to be about as fussy as an AeAe for me. Will be trying it "as is" and mixed with various other amendments. Hope it works well so I can try to find an AeAe and a Florida to try as I lost mine after many years.

PR-Giants · 06-24-2023, 07:19 AM

That's looking nice.

What have you learned since losing your first Florida to now?

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mchris752 · 06-24-2023, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

That's looking nice.

What have you learned since losing your first Florida to now?

Substrate matters, roots need to breathe moreso than i thought. The soil I used before was labeled a well draining soil but even that may not have been enough. Overwatering hard to do when the substrate drains well enough. Also florida dont seem to like the cold very much. Need to do a better job in the winter. Probably ignore it a bit more then giving it water every month or so. Last winter it actually rained a decent amount so pretty sure overwatering is what caused me to lose it.

PR-Giants · 06-24-2023, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mchris752

Substrate matters, roots need to breathe moreso than i thought.

The first variegated banana I received was a rotting mess of a rhizome and lucky for me because of my experience during the 1960's of using Clean Coarse River Sand for our hydroponics it was quick and easy for me to save that plant. It's not uncommon for people to kill a few as they learn the importance of soil aeration.

sddarkman619 · 06-24-2023, 11:53 AM

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It's not uncommon for people to kill a few as they learn the importance of soil aeration.

This^^^^^

mchris752 · 07-23-2023, 09:46 AM

Another pic of the Florida pup from PR

Jeff zone 8 N.C. · 07-23-2023, 11:54 AM

Very nice looking Florida. Have you been keeping it in a lot of shade? I ask because it has no burned white areas except the two oldest leaves, which is expected. In my case, I found that dappled shade was best to prevent that.

mchris752 · 07-23-2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C.

Very nice looking Florida. Have you been keeping it in a lot of shade? I ask because it has no burned white areas except the two oldest leaves, which is expected. In my case, I found that dappled shade was best to prevent that.

Its inside under grow lights / close to the window most of the time with occasional morning sun like it got today. Will deff need a shady spot when planted.

PR-Giants · 10-07-2023, 07:36 AM

That looks great.

Any new pics?

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Another pic of the Florida pup from PR

PR-Giants · 10-07-2023, 07:55 AM

Here's a Wild Beauty. It's a pup from a mother plant that was grown from seed.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. · 10-07-2023, 09:41 AM

Beautiful pup! Have you named this one? "Wild Beauty" sounds like a good name if you have not named it. If it is for sale I am interested.

PR-Giants · 10-07-2023, 03:17 PM

Here's another pup but from a different mother that was also grown from seed.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. · 10-07-2023, 03:27 PM

Another beauty! Did you do a cross to get the mothers or are they from wild sprouted seed on your farm? Did the mothers look like the pups?

PR-Giants · 10-07-2023, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C.

Beautiful pup! Have you named this one? "Wild Beauty" sounds like a good name if you have not named it. If it is for sale I am interested.

I just used the word wild so members would know that it was not a cultivar.

I posted those photos last Saturday and both of them sold quickly but if you want some variegated banana pups send a PM with your zip code and which plants you're looking for.

PR-Giants · 10-07-2023, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C.

Another beauty! Did you do a cross to get the mothers or are they from wild sprouted seed on your farm? Did the mothers look like the pups?

Yes, the mothers are just as beautiful as their pups and their mothers were wild. I don't keep track of any information on crosses with wild mothers for obvious reasons.

mchris752 · 10-08-2023, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

That looks great.

Any new pics?

Sure do, doing really well.

all43 · 10-08-2023, 01:40 PM

That's a beauty!!

06-11-2023, 06:28 AM	#22 (permalink)
Jeff zone 8 N.C. Junior Member Find me on the map! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 268 BananaBucks : 9,924 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 727 Times Was Thanked 524 Times in 242 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 26 Times	Re: Time to separate the variegated pups Very nice growth, especially for a shipped and recovered variegate. Good on PR-Giants and yourself for keeping these rare plants going. Is it a AeAe or Florida? Did you use PR-Giants sand mix or other? Thanks for your reply.

06-11-2023, 10:30 AM	#24 (permalink)
Jeff zone 8 N.C. Junior Member Find me on the map! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 268 BananaBucks : 9,924 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 727 Times Was Thanked 524 Times in 242 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 26 Times	Re: Time to separate the variegated pups Thanks for the tips on your methods. Had to look up lechuza basicpon. The price on line was around $14.00 but it looks like good stuff. I will look for a close supplier but have never seen it before. If I don't find one near I will order some to evaluate against Turface MVP which is what I am trying. I just recently started using Turface MVP which is a high temp baked calcined clay product that seems to have some of the same properties as Pon but is much cheaper. It cost me about $18.00 for a "too large to ship on UPS" 50 pound bag. My guesstimate is it is about 10 times the amount of product than in the Pon bags, but that is a guess. Basically it looks like tiny pieces of the old standard red clay nursery pots broken up. It supposed to have micro pores and both holds air and water and so microlife. Water pours right through it. Tons of air space. I am trying a Siam Ruby banana which seems to be about as fussy as an AeAe for me. Will be trying it "as is" and mixed with various other amendments. Hope it works well so I can try to find an AeAe and a Florida to try as I lost mine after many years. Last edited by Jeff zone 8 N.C. : 06-11-2023 at 10:34 AM.

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Jeff zone 8 N.C. Junior Member Find me on the map! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 268 BananaBucks : 9,924 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 727 Times Was Thanked 524 Times in 242 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 26 Times	Re: Time to separate the variegated pups Very nice looking Florida. Have you been keeping it in a lot of shade? I ask because it has no burned white areas except the two oldest leaves, which is expected. In my case, I found that dappled shade was best to prevent that.

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Jeff zone 8 N.C. Junior Member Find me on the map! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 268 BananaBucks : 9,924 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 727 Times Was Thanked 524 Times in 242 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 26 Times	Re: Time to separate the variegated pups Beautiful pup! Have you named this one? "Wild Beauty" sounds like a good name if you have not named it. If it is for sale I am interested. Last edited by Jeff zone 8 N.C. : 10-07-2023 at 09:43 AM.

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Jeff zone 8 N.C. Junior Member Find me on the map! Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 268 BananaBucks : 9,924 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 727 Times Was Thanked 524 Times in 242 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 26 Times	Re: Time to separate the variegated pups Another beauty! Did you do a cross to get the mothers or are they from wild sprouted seed on your farm? Did the mothers look like the pups?

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