What did you graft today ? - Page 8

Taylor · 03-23-2009, 07:45 PM

Gaylord lives just a few minutes from me! I really need to go to his place...have emailed him several times though!

Patty in Wisc · 03-23-2009, 10:51 PM

Joe, YOU'RE BACK!!!

I haven't seen you here for a long time.
You've been my instructer & inspiration to graft.
Last year you mentioned all the types of Avos you have & I didn't even know they all existed. I'd be more than happy with anything you could send when you are caught up w/ your busy schedule. Can't wait...thanks Joe.
Can I still take you up on a snip of Honeycrisp apple or is it too late for budstick of it from there? Apple trees here are still frozen & sleeping.

Patty in Wisc · 03-23-2009, 11:00 PM

Taylor, Gaylord's been very busy lately too - and with a 6 month old baby.
I mentioned to you last year that I was in VB for the citrus expo in 11-06. Were you there?
VB was nice - stayed ocean front just north of Aquarium...that was nice too!
Don't know if you know Dr. Bob, but we all got a tour of his wonderful backyard!

JoeReal · 03-24-2009, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc

Joe, YOU'RE BACK!!!

I haven't seen you here for a long time.
You've been my instructer & inspiration to graft.
Last year you mentioned all the types of Avos you have & I didn't even know they all existed. I'd be more than happy with anything you could send when you are caught up w/ your busy schedule. Can't wait...thanks Joe.
Can I still take you up on a snip of Honeycrisp apple or is it too late for budstick of it from there? Apple trees here are still frozen & sleeping.

I always keep a nice bin of scionwood... And often announce them before I throw them away. Haven't done most of my grafting yet. Too many write-ups to do for three companies..... So the deciduous scionwood are tuck safe and dormant. I will get to them soon, and I believe I have a few sticks of honeycrisp.

Patty in Wisc · 04-02-2009, 09:03 PM

Today I grafted variegated calamondin to my pencil sized P trifoliate rootstock. Tomorrow I will graft Reed, Pinkerton & Sir Prize avocados to my 3 yr old Haas grown from seed. Later for the apple as the tree is still dormant.
Thanks Joe!!!!

Chironex · 04-02-2009, 09:14 PM

I have never grafted anything, but it sure looks like it would be fun. Not much grows here on the hardwood side of the fence. A few Palo Verdes and some pines. I guess there are a few things here, but I don't know of any fruit trees that can survive, or at least anything I like.
Maybe when I get to China I can try some.

Richard · 04-02-2009, 09:20 PM

This DVD is a good primer on grafting:

ORANGE COUNTY CRFG GRAFTING DVD ORDER FORM

I guess Scot doesn't like apricot, purple plum, nectarine, pecan, ...

Chironex · 04-02-2009, 09:22 PM

Plums and nectarines are good, will they grow here in hell?

Patty in Wisc · 04-09-2009, 09:55 PM

Scot, here's a link to some illustrated grafting - mostly by JoeReal (I added a couple links too

) Citrus Growers Forum :: View Forum - Tutorials (Grafting and budding)
And, here is a very simple illustration of cleft/wedge graft. Joe's is much more detailed. C'mon, you can do it!!

Richard · 04-09-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chironex

Plums and nectarines are good, will they grow here in hell?

There are about 1/2 dozen varieties of each that will thrive there.

Chironex · 04-10-2009, 12:12 AM

Ok, I broke down and bought some trifoliate rootstock from Joe. Now all I need to do is plant the stuff with ammonium sulphate and epsom salt according to the formula prescribed by Joe. I will have to get out my jewelers scale to measure it. Then wait a year for the rootstock to establish itself. Then I can graft something to it. I am looking for scionwood of indigenous Chinese citrus varieties that will work with this rootstock (or Japanese in a pinch maybe Mauro has something from his citrus trees, hmmmm?). Anyone have some ideas?

Richard · 04-10-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chironex

Anyone have some ideas?

Texas Ruby and Oroblanco Grapefruit.

Patty in Wisc · 04-10-2009, 11:18 AM

Scot, just plant in a good rich well draining mix. I fert all my citrus with M.G. 24-8-16 & add epsom salt once in awhile (1 Tbls per gal).

john_ny · 04-10-2009, 11:27 AM

The rootstok sounds like Poncirus trifoliata. It's real cold hardy; it even grows here, in New York. It is sometimes used as a dwarfing rootstock for citrus. They have fruit that looks like an orange but, up close, it's a little fuzzy, like a peach. The flesh is white, like a lemon, and loaded with seeds.

Patty in Wisc · 04-10-2009, 11:58 AM

And, very very sour & bitter.

Richard · 04-10-2009, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc

Scot, just plant in a good rich well draining mix. I fert all my citrus with M.G. 24-8-16 & add epsom salt once in awhile (1 Tbls per gal).

The Grow More 28-8-18 water-soluble is less expensive per pound of nutrients and already contains the minerals in your epsom salts.

Chironex · 04-10-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

The Grow More 28-8-18 water-soluble is less expensive per pound of nutrients and already contains the minerals in your epsom salts.

Is that what I got from you?

Richard · 04-10-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chironex

Is that what I got from you?

Nope, you have 20-5-30 for bananas and several other fruiting crops. The 28-8-18 is for subtropicals that prefer less potash -- like citrus!

Chironex · 04-10-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Nope, you have 20-5-30 for bananas and several other fruiting crops. The 28-8-18 is for subtropicals that prefer less potash -- like citrus!

Ah, ok. How much of that do I need for 4 rootstock plants? How much is it for a small amount? When do I begin using it on these?

Hey do I leave these in the white tubes that Joe shipped them in? They are sort of an elongated bullet shape. Like something used for aerial reforestation bombs.

Patty in Wisc · 04-10-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

The Grow More 28-8-18 water-soluble is less expensive per pound of nutrients and already contains the minerals in your epsom salts.

Only mineral in epsom salt is magnesium w/ sulfer. Great for helping plants take up nitrogen. I put it on everything - even grass.
I think miracle grow is cheaper as it is right in the stores & I don't have to pay for shipping. Just as is looking at tutorials on grafting on your search engine or forums rather than buying a DVD & shipping it.

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