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On the other hand, I really admire what others are doing with multi-graft trees because many varieties are untested in their climate, or they just don't have room for both an orange and tangerine tree. So what did you graft today? |
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Some of the cultivars I have but I need to regraft them on other parts of the tree for better balance of the canopy based on their growth. About a third of these are new.
Cherries (done and all pushing out): Lambert Ron's Dawson Brooks Almaden Duke Rainier Saylor Ramon Aliva Long John Nanking K-5 Emerich#1 Emerich#2 Late Lomeli La Roca Grande Plums(done and all pushing out): Black Splendor John W Superior Beauty Inca Wickson Black Amber Sierra Fellenberg Burgundy E Heart W.S.Rosa Satsuma Nubiana San Jose FS Sierra Satsuma 13133 13134 Black Amber K-1 Apricots(done and all pushing out): Waugh Zard Peaches and Nectarines (done and all pushing out): Fairtime Cal.Curl Free UFO Rio Oso Strawberry Free Pears and Apples (done and all pushing out): Edward's Winter Fiesta Highland Honeycrisp Kosui Magness Monark Newton Pippin Pine Hill Seuri Shinko Tarusa Crimson Warren Winter Banana Yoinashi Citruses (10% done): Benny's Bicol Calamondin Centennial Eustis Limequat giant key lime Gold Nugget Navelate Nordman Seedless Nagami Reinking Pummelo Rex Union Grapefruit hybrid Seedless lemon SRA 92 Clementine Sudachi Hybrid Tango Mandarin Thong Dee Pummelo USDA 88-2 kaffir lime Kinkoji Kuno Wase Smooth Flat Seville China S-6 China S-7 China S-9 Corsica#1 Limonero Messina Ponderosa Sidi Aissa Lane Late Pink Grapefruit Pixie Chironja GF hybrid Clementine Nules Dream Indio Mandarinquat Mato Buntan Pearl Tangelo Ruby Blood Salustiana Smith Red Tavares Limequat Vainiglia Sanguigno Joe's Tarocco Persimmons (still to be done): 5-sided PCNA Acorn Type from Val Chocolate Dai-dai Maru Fuji Giant fuyu Gosho H128 Hachiya Hana Gosho Honan Red Hyakume Imoto Izu Jiro Maekawa Jiro Matsumoto Wase Nishijo from Alex OC Maru R.Smith Real Fuyu Rosseyenka Saijo Suruga Tamopan Zenji Maru Loquats Jujubes Assorted Blueberries (still coming) Other peaches (still on their way) Other nectarines and apricots (on their way) other persimmons (on their way too) other citruses (there's still more coming) Last edited by JoeReal : 03-14-2008 at 01:41 PM. Reason: corrections of listing |
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Grafting for me is year round. I have potted plants inside the house so I can graft rain or shine.
Done about ten days ago: Was really fortunate to purchase very few Tango budwoods and so took the most of my share of the buds. They all took, and I am doing the Tango! ![]() By joereal at 2008-03-05 Tango on the Volk, coming out strong. I have to test for myself if indeed it will produce insipid fruits. Perhaps with our climate it would turn out fine just like the Yosemite Gold on rough lemons. It may not be supersweet but just the right sweetness for our taste. ![]() By joereal at 2008-03-05 Tango T-bud and Gold Nugget bark graft combo on the Volk. I've tasted Gold Nugget produced on the Volk, and with proper length of time on the tree, it turned out really well. It is a good keeper. These are two of the most recommended mandarin types for our area, but not the rootstock though. The worst that can happen is that I would have plenty of budwoods from the vigorous growth on Volk (in fact some propagators could use the technique of grafting for budwood propagation, and not primarily fruit production). ![]() By joereal at 2008-03-05 Of course, as the tip given to me by Bonnie, Prof Manners and MrTexas, Flying dragon are excellent rootstocks when you want high quality fruits. And I have already a SRA 92 with two blooms, a Gold Nugget and a Tango budded and already sprouting. Will plan to add one more mandarin before chopping off the remainder of the Flying Dragon ![]() By joereal at 2008-03-05 And of course, I'm into multi-graft who want to have it all on one tree in a residential lot with itty bitty yard. I am in the early stages of assembling a multi-grafted mandarin tree. Already sprouting are Tango, Gold Nugget, Corsica #1, Sidi Aissa, and China Satsuma S-9. Will plan to add more later. |
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WOW .... I get so excited reading about this. I really want to do this someday.
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just a little warmer and will be grafting a 9 tip plumie with 9 different species, the plumie is a old grove farm that almost froze so i cut it to good wood which was about 8" from ground level and it shot out 9 tips!!!! i cant wait
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Way to go, Joe!
The Gold Nugget mandarin is the best I've ever tasted. It is one of the "lost" Howard Frost cultivars that Toots Bier rescued from the UCR collection. I hope your graft is a winner for you. Mine is in the ground on Flying Dragon -- a situation I'm not entirely happy with. What are some other rootstock possibilities? |
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You can graft the Gold Nugget unto Ponkan Mandarins and you won't be disappointed in terms of growth and fruit quality.
Gold Nugget is vigorous and would readily graft unto many citrus cultivars. Even my lousiest graft of them will always take and sprout. On the other hand, the Giant Key Lime is one of my most challenging citrus to graft. Gold Nugget can be grafted unto the Volkameriana lemon and the fruit quality is more than good enough. For sure it can be grafted unto C-35, Carrizo, and Swingle. Most Trifoliate type stocks and their hybrids would be good to use. Long term compatibility, you may have problems with benching 30 years down the road if done on Swingle. But let the next generation worry about that one. |
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Joe, thanks for that great recommendation!
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Most likely it will be a compromise. The root system of the base stock has a big influence on the quality of the fruit juices on the final scionwood. The interstem should have to be at least 12" to have a "compromise" or in between effect. You will not achieve the same quality as when FD is the base stock, but it could help. |
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I thought I was the only one who were busy grafting. The many budwoods that we got from the UCR were still not grafted because all of my trees are flowering now and I don't want to disturb them except for a few branches.
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Here's a sample of my newly grafted citrus.
The one on purple arrows are the newly grafted ones. The one on the red are last year's and the branches on the left are EZ's Oroblanco . They were all grafted to a Chandler pommelo because I found out that pommelos don't sweetened in my area. Not enough warmth during the Summer months. And I found out that mandarins are not affected. They can be as all sweet as can be. So I grafted many JoeReal's clemenules on this one. At least 16 stems and counting.
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You guys are talking about flying dragon. I am not sure if I am familiar with that. All I know is trifoliate rootstock. Can you tell me about it?
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Flying dragon is the common name for Poncirus trifoliate, also called trifoliate rootstock. The plant grows as a bush with numerous twisting, thorny branches and thus earned it's common name.
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If you want, I can dig out the various trifoliate rootstocks for you. I have one publication telling all about the various rootstocks tried for California. You can buy that book from UC Riverside publications. It shows various compatibility charts as well. |
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Thanks Richard. So we are talking about the same thing.
When I see the trifoliate leaves of my rootstock in fact when some of my citrus have a watersprout below the graft line they are what I called trifoliate because the leaves are 3 separate leaves so from now on I can call them flying dragon. In fact I have a few clemenules grafted on them.
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What I graft today were:
6 scions of Dancy mandarin to an oroblanco 8 large fruiting calamondin to Joe's calamondin 2 seedless kishu to a trifoliate which grew below the graft of a satsuma mandarin
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