Tiny banana pup removal

PeteMoss · 05-28-2020, 05:52 PM

Hi! I have a dwarf cavendish with two pups sprouting. The main plant is like 8 or 9 inches high excluding the new leaf unrolling, and each pup is maybe an inch or two. I couldn't really find much about pup removal for plants this small.

I would like to save the pups and start new plants, is it too soon to remove them? how big should the mother and pups be before doing so?

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Iowa · 05-28-2020, 06:10 PM

I would let them grow a little more. Next time you put it in a larger pot if they have some roots, it would be easy to separate the pups with it out of the pot.

PeteMoss · 05-28-2020, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa

I would let them grow a little more. Next time you put it in a larger pot if they have some roots, it would be easy to separate the pups with it out of the pot.

That's what I was thinking... which leads me to my next question: how do i know when to repot? this thing puts out a new leaf every week or faster. biggest size i have on hand is 2gal. I know with palms you don't wanna go too big, but those also don't grow as fast.

EDIT: it's in ~1/2 gallon right now

Iowa · 05-28-2020, 07:05 PM

When I get to it sometimes on my plants. If it's not growing out of the pot or too large and blowing over it's good. I take some of mine out of a gal pot and put in the ground, that's the biggest pot I can find.

Christine1950 · 07-16-2020, 06:33 AM

I wouldn't re-pot until Spring, right now she's growing, and if you were to transplant I'd be afraid of transplant shock.

PeteMoss · 07-18-2020, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Christine1950

I wouldn't re-pot until Spring, right now she's growing, and if you were to transplant I'd be afraid of transplant shock.

I ended up transplanting because it sucked the tiny container dry like every day. I gave it a go with the suckers. They didn’t make it. I’ll wait a little longer next time. Thanks all!

PeteMoss · 08-27-2020, 12:59 AM

Playing this game again. The sucker is much taller this time. Do you guys think I should give it more time?

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Christine1950 · 08-27-2020, 07:27 AM

I would, give it more time for the root system to grow more IMHO

cincinnana · 08-27-2020, 08:43 PM

I agree with everyone else.....more time so the plant will mature.
The pup is not hurting anything while it matures in the container connected to the main plant.

I let mine get pretty large and then use a sharp knife to sever the plant from the parent.
I just sever it, I do not remove it from the pot. There are now two plants growing separately in the same pot still developing their root systems.
I let the plant mature even further before I remove it from the container with all the roots now mature.
The pup is removed as a plug of soil and roots

You will then backfill the void left from the pup with new soil and the process starts over.

Your new pup/plant now is established and you can repot in another container with absolute minimum disturbance of the root ball guaranteeing a successful pup removal.

Click on the photos to see more possible separation ideas which could be helpful.

Pup separation of a container plant
by
Hostafarian, on Flickr

Container pup removal
by
Hostafarian,
on Flickr

PeteMoss · 08-30-2020, 12:12 AM

Huh, that makes it look really easy. Just need to cut deep enough

PeteMoss · 08-30-2020, 01:26 AM

I think it’s unrelated to the sucker but does anyone know what’s going on here? Two leaves at once and the one is reallly skinny.

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05-28-2020, 06:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
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07-16-2020, 06:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
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08-27-2020, 07:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
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08-27-2020, 08:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
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08-30-2020, 12:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
PeteMoss Location: Stamford, CT Find me on the map! Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 42 BananaBucks : 20,038 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 3 Times Was Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Tiny banana pup removal Huh, that makes it look really easy. Just need to cut deep enough

08-30-2020, 01:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
PeteMoss Location: Stamford, CT Find me on the map! Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 42 BananaBucks : 20,038 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 3 Times Was Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Tiny banana pup removal I think it’s unrelated to the sucker but does anyone know what’s going on here? Two leaves at once and the one is reallly skinny. Banana Gallery - B49348A9-75CC-4D01-AF0A-C5CFBED78C40

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