Why no roots on 16 inch pup?

brugman · 07-26-2021, 12:27 PM

So I removed my first 16 inch sword pup from my 5 ft tall dwarf brazilian today.
I was surprised to see that there was not 1 root attached!
I just assumed that a pup this size would have some roots.
When I remove tiny pups from my DC's they almost always have roots.
Is this not uncommon to not have roots?
I potted it anyway, put am doubting it will root.

Thanks

pitangadiego · 07-26-2021, 02:33 PM

Each variety grows roots at a different time in their development cycle.

Now that it has been separated it will focus on developing its own roots. Not to worry.

brugman · 07-26-2021, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitangadiego

Each variety grows roots at a different time in their development cycle.

Now that it has been separated it will focus on developing its own roots. Not to worry.

Wow, that's good to know.
Much appreciated

twotallgirls · 07-26-2021, 08:20 PM

As long as you have some of the corm it'll be fine. It happens but bananas are resilient. In a month it'll take off. Many times my smaller Blue Java don't have roots when I separate, but my RJ always do even if the same size.

Early on I had a run where I used shovel to separate pups and I just missed half the time. I now use a heavy steel digging bar and it always works for me, especially bigger pups.

brugman · 07-26-2021, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twotallgirls

As long as you have some of the corm it'll be fine. It happens but bananas are resilient. In a month it'll take off. Many times my smaller Blue Java don't have roots when I separate, but my RJ always do even if the same size.

Early on I had a run where I used shovel to separate pups and I just missed half the time. I now use a heavy steel digging bar and it always works for me, especially bigger pups.

Yeah, this pup had plenty of corm on it.
It was small enough that I just dug down and used a sharp butcher knife.

appreciate the input

smeash · 07-29-2021, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brugman

Yeah, this pup had plenty of corm on it.
It was small enough that I just dug down and used a sharp butcher knife.

appreciate the input

Ill be curious to see if yours roots.. Ive attempted to root several pups that didnt have roots and have yet to be successful. Best of luck!

brugman · 07-29-2021, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smeash

Ill be curious to see if yours roots.. Ive attempted to root several pups that didnt have roots and have yet to be successful. Best of luck!

Sounds like I won't know for several weeks.
I will definitely update this thread if it does take

edwmax · 07-29-2021, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brugman

So I removed my first 16 inch sword pup from my 5 ft tall dwarf brazilian today.
I was surprised to see that there was not 1 root attached!
I just assumed that a pup this size would have some roots.
When I remove tiny pups from my DC's they almost always have roots.
Is this not uncommon to not have roots?
I potted it anyway, put am doubting it will root.

Thanks

A picture would help. A pup can grow from a grow point on the corm or a rhirome on a root. ... Anyway when separating a pup from the corm, gouge into the corm a bit to help insure some roots from the corm are cut loose too.

Pot or plant the pup. It should grow its own roots in a few weeks.

PR-Giants · 08-01-2021, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brugman

Sounds like I won't know for several weeks.
I will definitely update this thread if it does take

Once a grower understands the proper air/moisture ratio it only takes a short amount of time to get a rhizome to root. Obviously the larger the rhizome the quicker it roots because of it's reserve capacity. Rooting can also be delayed by less than optimal conditions. The amount of time it takes to root is based on the decisions made by the grower.

The banana in the photos was a variegated one so I decided to use an optimal air/moisture ratio so it would root more quickly.

cincinnana · 08-02-2021, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwmax

A picture would help. A pup can grow from a grow point on the corm or a rhirome on a root. ... Anyway when separating a pup from the corm, gouge into the corm a bit to help insure some roots from the corm are cut loose too.

Pot or plant the pup. It should grow its own roots in a few weeks.

yep

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