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brugman 07-26-2021 12:27 PM

Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
So I removed my first 16 inch sword pup from my 5 ft tall dwarf brazilian today.
I was surprised to see that there was not 1 root attached!
I just assumed that a pup this size would have some roots.
When I remove tiny pups from my DC's they almost always have roots.
Is this not uncommon to not have roots?
I potted it anyway, put am doubting it will root.

Thanks

pitangadiego 07-26-2021 02:33 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
Each variety grows roots at a different time in their development cycle.


Now that it has been separated it will focus on developing its own roots. Not to worry.

brugman 07-26-2021 04:13 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pitangadiego (Post 343497)
Each variety grows roots at a different time in their development cycle.


Now that it has been separated it will focus on developing its own roots. Not to worry.

Wow, that's good to know.
Much appreciated

twotallgirls 07-26-2021 08:20 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
As long as you have some of the corm it'll be fine. It happens but bananas are resilient. In a month it'll take off. Many times my smaller Blue Java don't have roots when I separate, but my RJ always do even if the same size.

Early on I had a run where I used shovel to separate pups and I just missed half the time. I now use a heavy steel digging bar and it always works for me, especially bigger pups.

brugman 07-26-2021 08:49 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twotallgirls (Post 343506)
As long as you have some of the corm it'll be fine. It happens but bananas are resilient. In a month it'll take off. Many times my smaller Blue Java don't have roots when I separate, but my RJ always do even if the same size.

Early on I had a run where I used shovel to separate pups and I just missed half the time. I now use a heavy steel digging bar and it always works for me, especially bigger pups.

Yeah, this pup had plenty of corm on it.
It was small enough that I just dug down and used a sharp butcher knife.

appreciate the input

smeash 07-29-2021 12:51 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brugman (Post 343508)
Yeah, this pup had plenty of corm on it.
It was small enough that I just dug down and used a sharp butcher knife.

appreciate the input

Ill be curious to see if yours roots.. Ive attempted to root several pups that didnt have roots and have yet to be successful. Best of luck!

brugman 07-29-2021 04:20 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smeash (Post 343563)
Ill be curious to see if yours roots.. Ive attempted to root several pups that didnt have roots and have yet to be successful. Best of luck!

Sounds like I won't know for several weeks.
I will definitely update this thread if it does take

edwmax 07-29-2021 07:50 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brugman (Post 343492)
So I removed my first 16 inch sword pup from my 5 ft tall dwarf brazilian today.
I was surprised to see that there was not 1 root attached!
I just assumed that a pup this size would have some roots.
When I remove tiny pups from my DC's they almost always have roots.
Is this not uncommon to not have roots?
I potted it anyway, put am doubting it will root.

Thanks


A picture would help. A pup can grow from a grow point on the corm or a rhirome on a root. ... Anyway when separating a pup from the corm, gouge into the corm a bit to help insure some roots from the corm are cut loose too.


Pot or plant the pup. It should grow its own roots in a few weeks.

PR-Giants 08-01-2021 12:37 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brugman (Post 343566)
Sounds like I won't know for several weeks.
I will definitely update this thread if it does take

Once a grower understands the proper air/moisture ratio it only takes a short amount of time to get a rhizome to root. Obviously the larger the rhizome the quicker it roots because of it's reserve capacity. Rooting can also be delayed by less than optimal conditions. The amount of time it takes to root is based on the decisions made by the grower.

The banana in the photos was a variegated one so I decided to use an optimal air/moisture ratio so it would root more quickly.




cincinnana 08-02-2021 08:10 PM

Re: Why no roots on 16 inch pup?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwmax (Post 343569)
A picture would help. A pup can grow from a grow point on the corm or a rhirome on a root. ... Anyway when separating a pup from the corm, gouge into the corm a bit to help insure some roots from the corm are cut loose too.


Pot or plant the pup. It should grow its own roots in a few weeks.

yep


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