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Old 07-18-2014, 09:05 PM   #141 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: Time to separate the pups for the Spring

So is it needed to chop all the leaves after transplanting? I just transferred two plants today they have still very many roots, I really would like the plant to just continue growing like nothing happened? Or are all the leaves going to die?
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No need to cut the leaves, the ones that die off you can always chop off later but it sounds like you got plenty of roots so you might not lose any. I have separated pups and got plenty of roots/corm, and they don't experience any shock. Of course, I have also separated pups where I get very few roots and they take weeks to recover. Same technique and height when I separate them but different results (sword suckers as well), anyone know why?
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I don't know if anyone has posted this before in this thread but I found a great tool for separating pups. From what I have read, most people recommend a dig bar or shovel. I saw someone welded a horizontal bar to a dig bar and I really liked the idea but I can't weld. After searching Amazon I found something similar called a Dibble Bar with Steel T-Style Handle. I've always had a hard time getting leverage when removing the pups close to my fence and this worked out great.

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I don't know if anyone has posted this before in this thread but I found a great tool for separating pups. From what I have read, most people recommend a dig bar or shovel. I saw someone welded a horizontal bar to a dig bar and I really liked the idea but I can't weld. After searching Amazon I found something similar called a Dibble Bar with Steel T-Style Handle. I've always had a hard time getting leverage when removing the pups close to my fence and this worked out great.
It is a very handy tool. I use one, too.
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I still like mine. And if you can't weld just take the bar to a weld shop and you're in bidness. Thirty bucks or so.

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Hello Everyone!
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This is my first post so pardon for being wet around the ears....

Ive been told that it is best to produce a mat of 3 to 4 pstem
so you have a continuous plant that produces regularly in a rotative cycle.
I dont know the details or the timing or the height/age of the pups.

Requesting advice or link to read.

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Welcome Ritchy.

If you haven't already read Jon Verdick's website, it's a good starting place for info about growing bananas in So Cal.

http://webebananas.com/culture.html

He suggests staggering pups by 6-9 months, i.e., so they differ by that much in age. I'd go a bit less than that, maybe 3-6 months.
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Separated 2 dwarf cavendish pups today which will be growing in no time!
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One out of the two have started with leaves.This was the one on the left that had more of it's own corm.Two new pups came up after these were separated. Could be trading all summer long at this rate
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A manual grass edger works too, welding skills not required.

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I have been doing this for the last few days.
Repot ,refresh,and retire.
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:03 AM   #152 (permalink)
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I have removed 1 or 2 myself!
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What if I do not separate the pups? will they all survive. I had 2 pups and I tried to separate one and it died - i just do not want to take a chance with the second one. any suggestions, i appreciate.
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They will get larger and larger! Just wait till it grows larger to remove it. You can dig down and find the connection between it. Cut up against the mothers corm! You could also take a water hose and spray off a lot of soil so you can see better! I have friend who does the water hose trick and cuts them perfect every single time! Makes it easier.
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Is there an optimum time or size to remove a pup? Before it becomes a drain on the mother, but large enough to thrive soon after transplant? How many leaves should you wait for or is there a general height that seems to work best?
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Is there an optimum time or size to remove a pup? Before it becomes a drain on the mother, but large enough to thrive soon after transplant? How many leaves should you wait for or is there a general height that seems to work best?
I grow most of my plants in containers .
There are different ways to separate the pups.This is how I choose to separate.
I wait till the pup has some supporting roots and then sever from the main plant.
Take as much undisturbed rootball as possible and replant.
Pup in photo is knee high.
Then I replant them and set them off in the shade so they sort themselves out in a few weeks.

There are some good you tube videos out there that have some good detail too.

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Is there an optimum time or size to remove a pup? Before it becomes a drain on the mother, but large enough to thrive soon after transplant? How many leaves should you wait for or is there a general height that seems to work best?
That's sort of a myth -- the pup draining energy from the mother plant -- from what I've seen and understand. If the pup gets big enough that it is shading the mother plant or restricting it's growth by taking up limited nutrients or water via its roots, but that would be a very big pup.

Too small (a nubbin) and you will a lower chance of success, as well as too large (near the size of the mother plant), but under good conditions and with practice, those can work, too.

I prefer pups that are about knee high and have a big corm with some roots on it, but the size of the pup isn't crucial.
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Thank you, Mark, for answering the very question I had come on here to ask. Obviously my Gros Michel are going to have a taller baseline that some of the dwarfs being discussed, but I wanted to dig out some of the pups to donate to my CRFG chapter's raffle and just couldn't decide whether they were already too big or not.

On both plants, there is a 10' (minimum) pup I am not going to touch. But the rest range from 6' down to maybe 18". I figured I could leave the itsy-bitsy ones and take the 5' and 6' pups. You think that will be okay?

On this one you can see the biggest pup is bigger even than the Momma (but then Momma is leaning over somewhat)


On this one, the Momma has been removed (somewhat; little old lady has trouble sawing these things down) and her kids are gathered round her corpse.
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