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Old 11-05-2011, 02:02 PM   #121 (permalink)
 
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Last spring I posted some photos of my Dwarf namwah after the hard winter we had and how horrible it looked. I also was concerned about the two pups that I was going to be unable to remove due to having hand surgery. Here are some updated photos so you can see how fast these things have recovered and grown!

This was the DN after winter got finished with her: shot on December 19, 2010



then the photos showing the two pups that I was worried about leaving: shot June 27th, 2011



and now look at them! They are huge!! The two original pups are almost as big as the P stem! shot today, November 5, 2011

Also, when should I get a bloom on this plant? It is now over 12' tall and the two original pups are almost as tall.







Now my question is, since there are more pups pushing up, should I remove them and transplant? How many should I keep in the mat? Is it ok to do now before winter?

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Old 11-05-2011, 08:32 PM   #122 (permalink)
 
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This thread convinced me to thin the 'Ice Cream' mat before it got too cold! Here it is before..


I moved 2 'Ice Cream's to a new location and am growing 3 small ones inside. I also separated a Raja Puri. Here are the three in the new location


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I have now separated the two pups in the foreground of the most recent photo (2nd from bottom pic) above and planted one in the ground and potted the other. There are still two more smaller pups coming up but it's too soon to mess with them. Will it encourage flowering if I take them out of the mat? I am still waiting for my first bloom and it seems like it should happen soon, but the darn thing just keeps growing and growing! Is there any way to encourage a bloom?
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There is but am not sure if it works for bananas. Growth regulators, google it and see if you can find what you need. We used GA3, giberillic acid, on our tomatoes and it worked very well. Good luck, and watch out for the shadow.
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I have now separated the two pups in the foreground of the most recent photo (2nd from bottom pic) above and planted one in the ground and potted the other. There are still two more smaller pups coming up but it's too soon to mess with them. Will it encourage flowering if I take them out of the mat? I am still waiting for my first bloom and it seems like it should happen soon, but the darn thing just keeps growing and growing! Is there any way to encourage a bloom?
Raja Puri flowers in Nov --- Ai yai yai!!
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Aside from the pups I took for myself on the musa basjoos, I have given away all of the rest of the pups because I would prefer having more energy going towards the main stem and I know this species can pup like crazy.

This way, it will be much easier to overwinter and I'm hoping for a nice tall main stem while growing smaller pups is fine instead of having like a dozen stems all clumped together.
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Here is a pic of the desuckering tool that I use, it has a step to easy separate the sucker.There are also smaller ones available here.The are made from galvanized steel and are unbreakable.They can stay outside for years.


In my opinion the the best one, you can easily separate with giving your weight on the step.

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I've always used a sharp shooter. Works great.
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I just separated a pup for the first time, and I'd say I did a good job. I used the pry bar method.

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It's an Ice Cream. I'm going to give it to my cousins from Fresno, who are coming into town.
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How tall does a sward pup have to be before I cut it off? it is currently 13 inches.
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If you wait till its 3 feet it should have some roots.
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I've had sword pups om by Basjoo all summer and they haven't grown up much but definitely wider, keeps getting wider and not taller with more sprouts. I'd like to separate them before winter but after researching this topic, I find they're just not tall enough. Woke up to 39F the other morning!

Should I try to separate them or leave them?
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I've had sword pups om by Basjoo all summer and they haven't grown up much but definitely wider, keeps getting wider and not taller with more sprouts. I'd like to separate them before winter but after researching this topic, I find they're just not tall enough. Woke up to 39F the other morning!

Should I try to separate them or leave them?
It really does not matter how tall they are.More important if they have grown their own roots. I recently separated a pup about 8" tall and it had plenty of roots on it.
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Hey can someone maybe tell me what i did wrong? I separated 3 pups from the mother about a month ago and put them in pots. One was a little over a foot tall and the other two were quite small, just a few inches. I remeoved them because i didnt want the stalks growing in that direction. I thought I could get them going in the pot and then move them to another location permanently in the yard. But they dont seem to be doing anything since i planted them. The talest one looks about the same as it did, no new leaves, it just looks like it stopped growing but doesnt look dead. The other two small ones dont look so hot. The tiny leaves that were starting have just shrivaled up. They dont look completely dead but they dont look good either.

This is how they looked when i planted them. Disregard the 2nd one. its not a banana.


This is how they looked about 10 days later.

and this is how they look now.
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As long as they're green and growing I think they should be fine.
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Libracats.
Like Caliboy said as long as they stay green they are good. Some just takes alittle time to get going but once they take off be prepared!!
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Probably nothing. It's pretty typical for not much to happen above ground for a month or more. During that time they are growing roots. Once those are established, they'll take off.
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hm well, looks like I may have messed up a bit. I have watered them a lot, although, it does drain out. And I have them in direct sun. Ok wil try less water, more shade. Thanks.
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Yes, don't let them stay soggy. Easy on the water until you see active leaf growth.
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