Question on Variegated Dwarf Namwa

Best day · 06-18-2022, 07:56 PM

Does anyone know if a non variegated pup from a variegated Dwarf Namwa can give variegated pups?

Thanks,
Bill

beam2050 · 06-18-2022, 09:19 PM

i have a pysang awak/variegated namwa, but its not a dwarf, i bought it from pr giants, jp sold it to me as a semi variegated plant. so far, with each pup, they are a little more variegated than the mother. dont know but maybe the next one wont be variegated at all.

how high is the pup? from mine it seems the larger they get the more variegated the leaves can get.

Best day · 06-19-2022, 10:55 AM

That’s good to hear. Another person I know who grows these says that his non variegated pups will produce variegated pups also. That’s good news.

Bill

PR-Giants · 06-19-2022, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Best day

Does anyone know if a non variegated pup from a variegated Dwarf Namwa can give variegated pups?

Thanks,
Bill

How would you know if a non variegated pup from a variegated Dwarf Namwa is non variegated?

That's an important question because of the plants ability to quickly switch from heavily variegated to completely green and vice versa.

PR-Giants · 06-19-2022, 02:37 PM

Knowing that the plant produces a leaf about every 7 days and numbering the leaf on the right as #1 and knowing that leaf #2 & #4 are on the opposite side of the pseudostem makes the middle leaf #3 and the left leaf #5.

It took 28 days to change the plant from visually all green to variegated.

Best day · 06-19-2022, 03:28 PM

There must be multiple strains of variegated dwarf namwa. My strain 90% of the time will keep the same amount of variegation. If it starts as a small plant with a little variegation then it stays the same as it grows. The same is true for if it has a lot of variegation. Obviously it varies from leaf to leaf. But considering the whole plant it usually maintains about the same amount of variegation.

Bill

PR-Giants · 06-19-2022, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Best day

There must be multiple strains of variegated dwarf namwa. My strain 90% of the time will keep the same amount of variegation. If it starts as a small plant with a little variegation then it stays the same as it grows. The same is true for if it has a lot of variegation. Obviously it varies from leaf to leaf. But considering the whole plant it usually maintains about the same amount of variegation.

Bill

I have many different varieties of variegated dwarf pisang awak and the variegation can be manipulated on all of them and that's also why I try not refer to any of them individually as dwarf namwa but the point of the photo is that a grower can intentionally or unintentionally vary the variegation. And a pup because it's younger is even more susceptible.

Best day · 06-19-2022, 05:24 PM

I don’t think your photo is working. I can’t see it.

Bill

beam2050 · 06-20-2022, 07:04 AM

i didnt know mine was a dwarf, guess i missed it.

i dont worry to much about manipulation for variegation but, i would like to manipulate them to pup tho.

at least without hurting them.

PR-Giants · 06-25-2022, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by beam2050

i didnt know mine was a dwarf, guess i missed it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

I have many different varieties of variegated dwarf pisang awak

If you used my post to determine that your pisang awak is a dwarf I should make it clear that I also have different varieties of non dwarf variegated pisang awak. The variegation between a dwarf and a non dwarf is very different within this subgroup, and the non dwarf are much more beautiful.

Easiest way to determine if you have a dwarf is to measure the length of a leaf blade and divide it by the width, a ratio of 2.5 or less is a dwarf.

longranger · 06-25-2022, 10:56 AM

Wow. I would love a variegated Pisang Awok, standard or dwarf. Please let me know if you ever have pups available!!

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