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Old 05-26-2008, 11:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I have done a little research on this variety and the only info I have obtained is from (WEBANANAS-Encanto farms)).


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Other varieties grown in the [Philippines] include the Morado, Pitogo, Los Banos, Senorita, Tindok, Gloria, Granda, and Tumok. (066) The Philippines has different varieties of banana - from the cooking variety named Saba, to small sweet Latundan, to the bigger exportable Bongolan, to red-skinned Morado, to full of seeds Espanola, to small, finger-like Senoritas. (020




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Old 05-27-2008, 12:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The information I have (corrections welcome):

Senorita has synonyms Arnibal, Inarnibal, Bodles Altafort; genetics AAAA.
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traditionaltree.org claims it is diploid (AA) and from the Philippines.

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"Small quantities of 'Amas' (AA, 'Figue sucrée') banana are imported from the Philippines to Japan, where it is called 'Senorita'. The variety ripens quickly in tropical climates and, picked green for export, conserves its astringency during ripening."
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Does that book cite which researcher or research station did the genetic tests?
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Its definetly not AAAA, its a AA diploid. It is a "40 day" banana, these varieties will form and ripen the fruit in about 40 days after beginning to flower, much quicker than most varieties. Another name is 'Cuarenta Dias' ("40 days"). I have a whole info sheet on it on my other computer, I'll post any other useful info when I have the chance.
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Status of plant: Farmer’s variety

Genome: AA

Local names: Arnibal (Negros Occidental), Monkoy
(Negros Oriental and Mansaka), Señorita
(Laguna), Sarot-sut (Bicol), Cariños
(Abra), Lunsuranon (Surigao)

Purpose: Dessert

Note: Cuarenta dias is a Spanish phrase which
literally translates to “40 days” - the
number of days from flowering to fruiting
for this variety.


Plant general appearance
Leaf habit: Intermediate
Dwarfism: Normal


Pseudostem
Pseudostem height (at maturity): 2.44 m
Pseudostem girth (at 1m): 42.19 cm
Pseudostem colour (external): Medium green
Pseudostem appearance: Shiny
Predominant underlying colour: Pink-purple
Pigmentation of the underlying pseudostem: Pink-purple
Sap colour: Watery
Wax on leaf sheaths: Moderately waxy


Petiole/midrib/leaf
Blotches at petiole base: Large blotches
Blotches colour: Brown
Petiole canal leaf III: Open with margins spreading
Petiole margins: Winged and not clasping pseudostem
Wing type: Dry
Petiole margin colour: Pink-purple to red
Edge of petiole margin: With colour
Petiole margin width: 1.12 cm
Leaf blade length: 213.17 cm
Leaf blade width: 64.00 cm
Leaf ratio: 3.33
Petiole length: 37.08 cm
Colour of leaf upper surface: Green
Appearance of leaf upper surface: Shiny
Colour of leaf lower surface: Medium green
Appearance of leaf lower surface: Dull
Wax on leaves: Very waxy
Insertion point of leaf blades on petiole: Symmetric
Shape of leaf blade base: One side rounded
Leaf corrugation: Very corrugated
Colour of midrib dorsal surface: Yellow
Colour of midrib ventral surface: Yellow


Inflorescence/male bud
Peduncle weight: 1.31 kg
Peduncle length: 45.56 cm
Peduncle width: 5.00 cm
Empty nodes on peduncle: 1
Peduncle colour: Light green
Peduncle hairiness: Very hairy, short hairs
Bunch position: Hanging vertically
Bunch shape: Cylindrical
Bunch appearance: Lax
Rachis type: Present
Rachis position: At an angle
Rachis appearance: Neutral flowers, withered bracts on whole stalk
Male bud type: Normal (present)
Male bud shape: Intermediate


Bract
Bract base shape: Medium shoulder
Bract apex shape: Intermediate
Bract imbrication: Young bracts slightly overlap
Colour of bract external face: Red-purple
Colour of bract internal face: Yellow or green
Colour on the bract apex: Tinted with yellow
Colour stripes on bract: With discoloured lines
Bract scars on rachis: Very prominent
Fading of colour on bract base: Discontinuing
Male bract shape: Intermediate (x/y = 0.29)
Male bract lifting: Lifting two or more
Bract behaviour before falling: Revolute
Wax on the bract: Moderate
Presence of grooves on the bract: Moderate grooving


Male flower
Male flower behaviour: Neutral/male flower persistent
Compound tepal basic colour: Cream
Compound tepal pigmentation: Rust-coloured spots
Lobe colour of compound tepal: Yellow
Lobe development of compound tepal: Developed
Free tepal colour: Translucent white
Free tepal shape: Fan shape
Free tepal appearance: More or less smooth
Free tepal apex development: Developed
Free tepal apex shape: Triangular
Anther exsertion: Inserted
Filament colour: Cream
Anther colour: Pink/Pink-purple
Pollen sac colour: Cream
Style basic colour: Cream
Pigmentation on style: Purple
Style exsertion: Inserted
Style shape: Straight
Stigma colour: Black
Ovary shape: Arched
Ovary basic colour: Brown
Ovary pigmentation: Very few
Dominant colour of male flower: Yellow


Fruits
Planting to flowering: 231 days
Flowering to harvest: 54 days
Planting to harvest: 285 days
Bunch weight: 8.08 kg
Number of hands per bunch: 7
Number of fruits per bunch: 113
Fruit weight: 54.89 g
Fruit length: 85.57 mm
Fruit width: 33.50 mm
Fruit thickness: 33.37 mm
Fruit shape (longitudinal curvature): Straight
Transverse section of fruit: Rounded
Fruit apex: Bottle-necked
Remains of flower relicts at fruit apex: Persistent style
Fruit pedicel length: 20.31 mm
Fruit pedicel width: 7.92 mm
Pedicel surface: Hairless
Fusion of pedicels: Very partially or none
Mature fruit peel colour: Yellow
Fruit peel thickness: 1.34 mm
Fruit peel weight: 13.42 g
Adherence of the fruit peel: Fruit peels easily
Cracks in the fruit peel: Cracked
Flesh weight: 45.10 g
Pulp colour at maturity: Yellow
Fruits fall from hands: Deciduous
Flesh texture: Soft
Edible portion: 82.17%
Predominant taste: Mild to sweet
Pulp TSS: 20.32ºBrix


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http://bananas.bioversityinternation...hilippines.pdf
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wow, thats some detailed info!
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I have done a little research on this variety and the only info I have obtained is from (WEBANANAS-Encanto farms)).


SENORITA

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Other varieties grown in the [Philippines] include the Morado, Pitogo, Los Banos, Senorita, Tindok, Gloria, Granda, and Tumok. (066) The Philippines has different varieties of banana - from the cooking variety named Saba, to small sweet Latundan, to the bigger exportable Bongolan, to red-skinned Morado, to full of seeds Espanola, to small, finger-like Senoritas. (020




I would like any info regarding origin,taste,height,and what group or subgroup would this belong to?


here are mine............



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Did you or someone bring that from the Philippines? Señorita bananas are short pstemmed bananas (5-6ft) with short fruit with very thin skin. Bears fruit 8 months from pup transplant in the Philippines. Having a short shelf life, the entire bunch is usually sold because of this. For flavor, it's tough choice between this and the Lakatan, with possibly the Señorita having a tinsy-winsy edge, as the best tasting in my book.

I don't remember Señorita leaves nor pstem with red blotches, though. But it's been over 27 years since I've seen a plant.

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Thanks to those that replied especially Gabe,your the man!!!!!!!!!


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I don't remember Señorita leaves nor pstem with red blotches, though. But it's been over 27 years since I've seen a plant.

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Yes,these are the Philippine senorita aquired from reliable source.
here are a few pics to refresh your memory LOL!!!

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Are these bananas found growing in Latin America? I have been seeing some that look similar down here in Mexico. I noticed quite a few types that I thought were more uncommon here, like Ice Cream.
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So can we safely say that Veinte Cohol is the same banana as Senorita?
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So can we safely say that Veinte Cohol is the same banana as Senorita?
No, they are similar perhaps, but not the same, and likely in different subgroups. The notes I can dig up on it place 'Senorita' in the Inarnibal subgroup and 'Viente Cohol' in the Viente Cohol subgroup. However, both are (AA) and are found in some of the same places.
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...here is an update on the Musa Senorita.It is a vigorous plant!

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Frank,
That plant is twice as tall as when you first posted the photo just a little over a month ago! Very nice!

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Looks nice and healthy!
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Thanks a lot, Gabe. I'm glad you cleared that up.

Greenie, very nice looking banana plant. Please keep us posted and keep taking those pictures. I'd love to see the fruit on that one and the height that it blooms.
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Greenie: Have you ever started a wiki discussion? If not, it's time to start one as I don't see Senorita there.

I think I want one!
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