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05-26-2008, 11:40 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Musa Senorita
I have done a little research on this variety and the only info I have obtained is from (WEBANANAS-Encanto farms)).
SENORITA DESCRIPTION: Other varieties grown in the [Philippines] include the Morado, Pitogo, Los Banos, Senorita, Tindok, Gloria, Granda, and Tumok. (066) The Philippines has different varieties of banana - from the cooking variety named Saba, to small sweet Latundan, to the bigger exportable Bongolan, to red-skinned Morado, to full of seeds Espanola, to small, finger-like Senoritas. (020 I would like any info regarding origin,taste,height,and what group or subgroup would this belong to? here are mine............ Thanks! |
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Re: Musa Senorita
The information I have (corrections welcome):
Senorita has synonyms Arnibal, Inarnibal, Bodles Altafort; genetics AAAA.
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Re: Musa Senorita
traditionaltree.org claims it is diploid (AA) and from the Philippines.
www.traditionaltree.org from another website... "Small quantities of 'Amas' (AA, 'Figue sucrée') banana are imported from the Philippines to Japan, where it is called 'Senorita'. The variety ripens quickly in tropical climates and, picked green for export, conserves its astringency during ripening." Last edited by Velutina : 05-27-2008 at 04:09 AM. |
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Re: Musa Senorita
Does that book cite which researcher or research station did the genetic tests?
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Re: Musa Senorita
Its definetly not AAAA, its a AA diploid. It is a "40 day" banana, these varieties will form and ripen the fruit in about 40 days after beginning to flower, much quicker than most varieties. Another name is 'Cuarenta Dias' ("40 days"). I have a whole info sheet on it on my other computer, I'll post any other useful info when I have the chance.
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Re: Musa Senorita
Status of plant: Farmer’s variety
Genome: AA Local names: Arnibal (Negros Occidental), Monkoy (Negros Oriental and Mansaka), Señorita (Laguna), Sarot-sut (Bicol), Cariños (Abra), Lunsuranon (Surigao) Purpose: Dessert Note: Cuarenta dias is a Spanish phrase which literally translates to “40 days” - the number of days from flowering to fruiting for this variety. Plant general appearance Leaf habit: Intermediate Dwarfism: Normal Pseudostem Pseudostem height (at maturity): 2.44 m Pseudostem girth (at 1m): 42.19 cm Pseudostem colour (external): Medium green Pseudostem appearance: Shiny Predominant underlying colour: Pink-purple Pigmentation of the underlying pseudostem: Pink-purple Sap colour: Watery Wax on leaf sheaths: Moderately waxy Petiole/midrib/leaf Blotches at petiole base: Large blotches Blotches colour: Brown Petiole canal leaf III: Open with margins spreading Petiole margins: Winged and not clasping pseudostem Wing type: Dry Petiole margin colour: Pink-purple to red Edge of petiole margin: With colour Petiole margin width: 1.12 cm Leaf blade length: 213.17 cm Leaf blade width: 64.00 cm Leaf ratio: 3.33 Petiole length: 37.08 cm Colour of leaf upper surface: Green Appearance of leaf upper surface: Shiny Colour of leaf lower surface: Medium green Appearance of leaf lower surface: Dull Wax on leaves: Very waxy Insertion point of leaf blades on petiole: Symmetric Shape of leaf blade base: One side rounded Leaf corrugation: Very corrugated Colour of midrib dorsal surface: Yellow Colour of midrib ventral surface: Yellow Inflorescence/male bud Peduncle weight: 1.31 kg Peduncle length: 45.56 cm Peduncle width: 5.00 cm Empty nodes on peduncle: 1 Peduncle colour: Light green Peduncle hairiness: Very hairy, short hairs Bunch position: Hanging vertically Bunch shape: Cylindrical Bunch appearance: Lax Rachis type: Present Rachis position: At an angle Rachis appearance: Neutral flowers, withered bracts on whole stalk Male bud type: Normal (present) Male bud shape: Intermediate Bract Bract base shape: Medium shoulder Bract apex shape: Intermediate Bract imbrication: Young bracts slightly overlap Colour of bract external face: Red-purple Colour of bract internal face: Yellow or green Colour on the bract apex: Tinted with yellow Colour stripes on bract: With discoloured lines Bract scars on rachis: Very prominent Fading of colour on bract base: Discontinuing Male bract shape: Intermediate (x/y = 0.29) Male bract lifting: Lifting two or more Bract behaviour before falling: Revolute Wax on the bract: Moderate Presence of grooves on the bract: Moderate grooving Male flower Male flower behaviour: Neutral/male flower persistent Compound tepal basic colour: Cream Compound tepal pigmentation: Rust-coloured spots Lobe colour of compound tepal: Yellow Lobe development of compound tepal: Developed Free tepal colour: Translucent white Free tepal shape: Fan shape Free tepal appearance: More or less smooth Free tepal apex development: Developed Free tepal apex shape: Triangular Anther exsertion: Inserted Filament colour: Cream Anther colour: Pink/Pink-purple Pollen sac colour: Cream Style basic colour: Cream Pigmentation on style: Purple Style exsertion: Inserted Style shape: Straight Stigma colour: Black Ovary shape: Arched Ovary basic colour: Brown Ovary pigmentation: Very few Dominant colour of male flower: Yellow Fruits Planting to flowering: 231 days Flowering to harvest: 54 days Planting to harvest: 285 days Bunch weight: 8.08 kg Number of hands per bunch: 7 Number of fruits per bunch: 113 Fruit weight: 54.89 g Fruit length: 85.57 mm Fruit width: 33.50 mm Fruit thickness: 33.37 mm Fruit shape (longitudinal curvature): Straight Transverse section of fruit: Rounded Fruit apex: Bottle-necked Remains of flower relicts at fruit apex: Persistent style Fruit pedicel length: 20.31 mm Fruit pedicel width: 7.92 mm Pedicel surface: Hairless Fusion of pedicels: Very partially or none Mature fruit peel colour: Yellow Fruit peel thickness: 1.34 mm Fruit peel weight: 13.42 g Adherence of the fruit peel: Fruit peels easily Cracks in the fruit peel: Cracked Flesh weight: 45.10 g Pulp colour at maturity: Yellow Fruits fall from hands: Deciduous Flesh texture: Soft Edible portion: 82.17% Predominant taste: Mild to sweet Pulp TSS: 20.32ºBrix SOURCE http://bananas.bioversityinternation...hilippines.pdf
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Re: Musa Senorita
wow, thats some detailed info!
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I don't remember Señorita leaves nor pstem with red blotches, though. But it's been over 27 years since I've seen a plant. There have been discussions on this previously. Here are some links: What are your favorite banana plants for fruit and for looks? Veinte Cohol Warning: A long, boring, introduction. |
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Thanks to those that replied especially Gabe,your the man!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Musa Senorita
Are these bananas found growing in Latin America? I have been seeing some that look similar down here in Mexico. I noticed quite a few types that I thought were more uncommon here, like Ice Cream.
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Greene:
I hope you will answer my mail to you a while back. Benny
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So can we safely say that Veinte Cohol is the same banana as Senorita?
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Re: Musa Senorita
No, they are similar perhaps, but not the same, and likely in different subgroups. The notes I can dig up on it place 'Senorita' in the Inarnibal subgroup and 'Viente Cohol' in the Viente Cohol subgroup. However, both are (AA) and are found in some of the same places.
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...here is an update on the Musa Senorita.It is a vigorous plant!
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Looks nice and healthy!
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Thanks a lot, Gabe. I'm glad you cleared that up.
Greenie, very nice looking banana plant. Please keep us posted and keep taking those pictures. I'd love to see the fruit on that one and the height that it blooms.
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Awesome pictures. Benny
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Re: Musa Senorita
Greenie: Have you ever started a wiki discussion? If not, it's time to start one as I don't see Senorita there.
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