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Old 11-08-2010, 08:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default It's official… overnight low of 27°F - FRIED.

Good Morning!

It is with great sadness that I announce the brutal death of my Musa sikkimensis manupur. Born from a seedling this past spring, young Sikki spent most of her short life delighting by-passers in a Western New York front yard with her large green leaves & flashy red stripes. Survived by her much taller Basjoo neighbors, Sikki was seen as the shorter, flashier, Snooki version of the group. "For real! We've got bets going on if she ever flowers, it'll be pickles instead of bananas. *fist pump* But she will be missed." - The Basjooation.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Who says she is dead? Pack her up with a solid layer of mulch and see what will happen in the spring. Just because the leaves have frozen off, does not proof her demise.
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Or dig up that corm..
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Definitely dig it up and bring her inside. "The reports of her death are greatly exaggerated."
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did you get snow from former Hurricane Thomas like we did in CT? It's way too early for this.
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Default Re: It's official… overnight low of 27°F - FRIED.

Definitley don't loose hope!!! My sikkimensis seedling died down in the coldest spot inside that I had it in last year and sprouted again in spring. I bet the corm's still fine.
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I'd send my condolences, but I'm too busy laughing at the obituary.

Poor Sikki
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Default Re: It's official… overnight low of 27°F - FRIED.

While saddened at the loss of such a magnificent sounding beauty, she'll rise again from the corm like the Phoenix from the ashes. Send us pictures of her new shoots in the spring.

(got carried away by the pickle nana)
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Default Re: It's official… overnight low of 27°F - FRIED.

How big was the sikki?

Not heartwarming to me. I have a few I was hoping to overwinter outdoors in a year or 2 in nh
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Dig it up!!! She will come back.
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Default Re: It's official… overnight low of 27°F - FRIED.

The sikki I got from JuniPerez is doing great and has already put out 1 leaf. It is currently in a cool room by a southern facing window as to give it a bit of dormancy for a couple months, but I plan on putting this guy in a warmer well lit room in another month or so to let it get bigger. My basjoos have been protected and the only thing I'm hoping for is that the corm will re-sprout in the spring.

The 27F low didn't even touch any of my bamboos, not even the tropicals.
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Default Re: It's official… overnight low of 27°F - FRIED.

Yes, I know she will be reborn in spring... admit it though, your heart just aches, every single one of you, when the growing season is officially over. I just take it up a notch. = )
I've cut her down and mulched heavily to keep her warm & dry this winter. I'll definitely post rebirth pics in spring.

Tasty: It was only about 3 feet tall last time I measured and not much growth after that. The basjoos and the darjeelings were older, so they grew taller. This one germinated this year, so it didn't do much growing.

Steven: We've had a few flakes, but nothing that stays. I had rooftop snow for a few hours but melted once the sun rose.

Stevelau: I'm glad to hear it's doing great. The basjoos should do well. My worry is that sikki's are said to be more prone to root rot, so I've gotta make sure it stays dry enough. Hopefully I've raise the ground there high enough. Post pics as it grows though, I'd love to see.
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Default Re: It's official… overnight low of 27°F - FRIED.

For what its worth before I brought all my plants indoors this year, I think they all saw a night low around the same temperature. That included a few darjeelings and a few chinese yellows. They might be 18 inches tall dirt to leaf top and are about all the same size.

All of them suffered leaf damage but the pstem was prettymuch fine. The next day they all came inside. They have a few black eyes and cuts but are sitting in my basement fine right now. That same night fried all of the topgrowth to my colcasia gigantea (non thai strain)
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I would surely dig the Sikki up and bring it in the basement. Sikkis "ain't" Basjoos. tough to overwinter in zone 6 and below.
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Default Re: It's official… overnight low of 27°F - FRIED.

Or another option would be to leave it be as an experiment. Grow another from seed over the winter...
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Or another option would be to leave it be as an experiment. Grow another from seed over the winter...

Speaking of seeds: My Siam Ruby has not survived the 15 day long ordeal of shipping it through the (customs) mail. It fought for a while and looked like it was recovering, but in the end it was too weak and succumbed.

Since I have not given up on the M. Siam Ruby, but on obtaining a live plant from the US (to Canada) I am looking for a source of seeds, so I can grow a plant over winter.

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Speaking of seeds: My Siam Ruby has not survived the 15 day long ordeal of shipping it through the (customs) mail. It fought for a while and looked like it was recovering, but in the end it was too weak and succumbed.

Since I have not given up on the M. Siam Ruby, but on obtaining a live plant from the US (to Canada) I am looking for a source of seeds, so I can grow a plant over winter.

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U cant grow Siam Ruby from seed. Try something else, there are lot of beautifull species available to start from seeds.
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Well, it's happened. They say in Bexar County, Texas: "If you don't like the weather here, give it 5 minutes- it'll change." So true, so true.

Last year, I was harvesting greens and everything else in mild weather up until January when it hit hard enough to kill most of my citrus trees. That's pretty much typical weather here.

So too, is the "unusual" typical here. So far, we've had three freeze warnings in November. Not really normal, but then again, our weather here isn't a boring topic of conversation.

I, like many others in Bananas.org, will lose my first ever banana crop today. Tonight it will be around 27 degrees without the wind chill. Too bad. Two nights from now it will be 60 degrees at night, then hitting the next night to 28 degrees.

I'm dragging my feet. I have to go outside today, take a knife (I don't think it's going to be that easy), and cut my nanas down to about 18-24 inches, then wrap the stumps in old blankets. The bases of the plants have been buried under almost 2 feet of mulch.

Well, gardening goes like that. Next year, I may have nanas in the spring. That will be exciting. My friend's grandkids have had the time of their lives being able to see and touch nanas on the plant for the first time. Maybe next year we'll get to taste fresh from the plant itself.

I January, I'll replace the two citrus trees that were killed- a Rio Red Grapefruit and an orange. Perhaps I'll be lucky enough to get another heirloom, a Louisiana Sweet.

I have learned that nanas survive in Michigan, New York, England and everywhere else, so I know mine will, too.

If I ever figure out how to post pictures here using Vista and Firefox, I'll have pictures in the spring. Maybe some Dwarf Cavendish pups to give to good homes, too.
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Thanks, Dalmatiansoap, are there any red leaved ones?
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Or another option would be to leave it be as an experiment. Grow another from seed over the winter...

That's the route I'm taking. I don't like hearing "you can't". From what I've researched, the sikki can make it through a zone 6 winter if it's kept very dry. So while it will receive the same protection from the cold that the other are getting, it will have additional protection against wetness. Plenty of seeds to germinate on-hand.
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