Is this a Blue java?

Platanera · 07-11-2023, 08:22 AM

Hi everyone,

I live in Spain and just starting with banana plants.

This is the first one giving fruit. It was sold to me as a Blue Java. Someone has said this is not a blue java, but an orinoco. Can you determine by this picture with certainty which species this is?

I might want to try to sell the pups, so even if it´s not a Blue Java, getting an ID would be really helpful.

beam2050 · 07-11-2023, 09:11 AM

i had orinoco many years ago. rather looks like orinoco. sorry, but while orinoco don't produce a lot of fruit, their pretty cold hardy and taste great.

Abnshrek · 07-14-2023, 07:39 PM

Looks pretty short for an Orinoco.. Everyone I've seen fruits beyond 7' and mostly @ 10'.. Could be a number of types in that group.. I don't have my banana book on me.. If your lucky its a Namwah sport.. They are `10x better than an Orinoco.. I make chips out of orinoco's..

Iowa · 07-14-2023, 08:04 PM

I agree with Beam, Orinoco, here's a 12 inch tall Orinoco.

Abnshrek · 07-14-2023, 10:41 PM

Easiest way to tell if its an Orinoco is if the fruit have 3 sides like a triangle.. No triangle its something better than an Orinoco.. Alot flowers look like this. Orinoco's can have a crapload of fruit as well it all depends on how healthy the plant is.

Platanera · 07-15-2023, 04:17 PM

Thanks guys. They don't really seem like triangles. Most have 4 sides where one side is kind of small, but still. I only saw one banana with truly just three sides. Posted a close up of the forming banana's below.

By the way I talked to the guy who sold me the plant and he ordered it from maison du bananier as a blue java. Clearly they mixed it up, but just to say it could be anything...

beam2050 · 07-15-2023, 06:06 PM

definitely, absolutely, unconquivocally, not blue java.

ok, how about the a triangle with a corner cut off.

Platanera · 07-15-2023, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beam2050

definitely, absolutely, unconquivocally, not blue java.

ok, how about the a triangle with a corner cut off.

Yeah, you could say that. Does that mean anything to you?

beam2050 · 07-15-2023, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platanera

Yeah, you could say that. Does that mean anything to you?

yep orinoco. what every body else has been saying. orinoco is one of those bananas even a laymen can identify, of the thousands of bananas most COMMANLY seen here on the org, but there also other bananas in this world, and there also dwarf orinocos. i might want to buy 2.

i like the taste of a good orinoco.

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Platanera Join Date: Sep 2022 Posts: 10 BananaBucks : 2,958 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 8 Times Was Thanked 10 Times in 4 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Is this a Blue java? Thanks guys. They don't really seem like triangles. Most have 4 sides where one side is kind of small, but still. I only saw one banana with truly just three sides. Posted a close up of the forming banana's below. By the way I talked to the guy who sold me the plant and he ordered it from maison du bananier as a blue java. Clearly they mixed it up, but just to say it could be anything...

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