What is blooming in your garden today (other plants)? - Page 82

palmtree · 12-03-2011, 01:37 AM

I still have lots of plants in bloom outside considering its already December! Some annuals are blooming likeMandevillas, the lantanas are doing really well and they are blooming and even making more buds for more blooms, and I think my geraniums are probably blooming the best since they still have lots of growth and blooms!
Despite that crazy October snowstorm, this fall has actually been pretty mild. I usually dont have anything in bloom by December and usually the frost tender plants are melted for the year, but everything is still doing really well. No freezes in the forecast for the next 10 days!

Willow87 · 12-03-2011, 08:47 AM

I think we are going to have lows in the 20s starting Monday. I think that will probably kill them. At least I can enjoy them before then lol

iz · 12-03-2011, 09:47 AM

me too. I'm quite surprise my loofah vines are still fruiting and still around in December(maybe its because my backyard has a big lake-heard large mass water helps from freezing); knock on wood. I know Monday its gonna be like 29 degree so maybe I will cover what I can so some of the unmatured loofah can mature; the young vegetable, I use it in noodle soups, and the mature one I am trying to make loofah scrubs, but they are still all green;large and long(2~3 ft) but still hard green-not brown or yellow, so its not quite ready for harvesting into scrubs..need little more time. I have like 20 or more growing-hate to waste them. If all successful and have plenty of seeds, anyone is welcome to have some with a prepaid mail.

Vines behind the harvested casava: Banana Gallery - casava
Banana Gallery - Loofa Sponge
Banana Gallery - loofah

eek..low 26 on tuesday...:-(

Olafhenny · 12-03-2011, 01:18 PM

Hi Cameron,

I see the the banana, which you have in your avatar occasionally for sale up here in the chilly north and must
therefore conclude, that it is reasonably cold hardy. However there is never any name associated with it.

I am interested in acquiring it, because of the colour of the leaves, but in order to research more about it, I
would have to know its name.

Can you help please?
Thanks,
Olaf

Willow87 · 12-03-2011, 03:31 PM

Hi Olaf, its Sumatrana X Gran Nain. Its a hybrid that has Blood banana and Gran Nain as its parents. I got mine from Sandy's online nursery, Northern Tropics. I had to overwinter since it is very sensitive to cold. Unfortunately I lost it and several of my other bananas to the drought and heat.

Olafhenny · 12-03-2011, 04:28 PM

Thank you, Cameron, the banana I am seeing here is the only one, which is widely marketed here beside
the Basjoo. Therefore I assume it is a different, fairly hardy, variety with leaf markings similar to yours.

I have once tried to buy a Siam Ruby from the States, but the shipping takes far too long, probably due to
customs delay and by the time it got here, a day short of 3 weeks, it was practically dead and on the way to
re-incarnate as a hyacinth.

PS: I just had the "innovative" idea to look Sumatrana X Gran Nain up and found out, that it is a "dwarf",
and therefore possibly considered a house plant here, even though it is supposed to grow to 6 to 8'
tall. Add to that the height of the pot and the reach of an emerging leaf, and it is clearly a 'stretch'
for most homes

Willow87 · 12-03-2011, 08:49 PM

I wonder if you are talking about Musa Sikkimensis 'Red Tiger' Its has stripes and is cold hardy. The Blood bananas are very sensitive to cold. I saw several large Siam Ruby bananas at a local nursery last year. Even though it was fall at the time, the nursery was still selling them for full price lol. My Sumatrana X did pretty well indoors, even in the lower light, but it only grew a couple of leaves during the whole winter.

Olafhenny · 12-03-2011, 10:41 PM

Thank you, Cameron,

I thought I’d ask while I still can find your avatar. After the holidays, we will head for a couple of months to
Vietnam and if I cannot find anything exiting there, then I will embark on a more intensive search after I
come back in March.

We have an elderly lady looking after our house, while we are gone and I cannot foster any more plants
on her, than I already have.

Following up on your hints and after some searches, I have come to the conclusion, that here in BC the
best source for retail banana plants is Home Depot. Unfortunately the closest one is a good hour drive
from where I live. So it is not a place on which I can keep on checking.

Best,
Olaf

Willow87 · 12-04-2011, 10:44 AM

Oh wow Vietnam? I found my Orinoco at Home Depot, but this year they didn't sell any banana plants. The nurseries sell a few but they are so expensive. Sometimes Lowe's will sell Super dwarf Cavendish or Blood bananas but nothing else. I'm going to try to check out Home Depot next spring to see if they get another shipment of Orinoco bananas. I hope you can find one.

Olafhenny · 12-04-2011, 11:51 AM

Yeah, I did bring home my Ornata from there. I was relatively new to banana raising and had never heard of a
banana, which is small enough to raise inside to full maturity, and when I saw them in Vietnam, I thought I had
really found something. The story on how I got it home is here:

I Think I Scored a Coup, the continuation here Need advice to grow a banana plant indoors all winter
and some more on it here: Old corms

I still think, hat I "found something", because I would have a tough time finding one here in Canada and to get
life plants up from the states does have problems of long or costly shipping

iz · 12-04-2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willow87

Oh wow Vietnam? I found my Orinoco at Home Depot, but this year they didn't sell any banana plants. The nurseries sell a few but they are so expensive. Sometimes Lowe's will sell Super dwarf Cavendish or Blood bananas but nothing else. I'm going to try to check out Home Depot next spring to see if they get another shipment of Orinoco bananas. I hope you can find one.

Every time I see banana plants in homedepot or lowes, I never see specific name; just banana. I'd walk around the bananas they sell, and its disappointing that they don't even know what type when I ask. So I give up buying bananas at home depot/lowes. I'll stick with online, although I just recently heard that the gov gonna try to impose tax with online purchase; don't know how they'll do that though.

Ya, I like Orinoco too; they do well here in North Texas. I've got couple growing, and hopefully I'll get more from the mom next summer; I don't mind giving if I get plenty more pups next summer.

Olafhenny · 12-04-2011, 01:55 PM

I hear (read) you, Iz, but up here in western Canada the Home Depot seems to be the best source. The
garden shops also do not identify the species of bananas and from what I read here, they do not do much
better in the States, as there are many complaints about mislabeling on this board.

The solution I can see is to take a camera into the shops and take pictures, post them here and hope,
that somebody will be able to identify them.

iz · 12-04-2011, 02:37 PM

If its just typical green banana leaf, it amaze me anyone can pick up and identify their types; is there any other clues? Hardy or not, plaintiff or not, and if anyone is patient enough to wait to bloom. yup, it helps when you see its flower and/or fruit. But then if it where like a plaintiff fruit-say it looks like the plaintiff saba; are there other types of plaintiff that similarly looks like the saba/carbada fruit? Whats next?

If I can ever identify my 1 unknown banana, and 2 of my mix labeled banana from the uncertain wait, it will be exciting to know anyway.

Olafhenny · 12-04-2011, 03:04 PM

There are lots of markers, by which experts here on the board can identify the variety of a banana. Shape and
colouration of the leaf, shape of the petiole wing, as well as length and colour of the petiole. All of these are
present and recognizable once the third or fourth leaf has formed. And not all of the leaves are “just typically
green”.

Willow87 · 12-04-2011, 03:43 PM

Iz I'm in North Texas too. I love all of the rain we are getting here, but it was a little too late lol .My Orinoco that I got a few years ago was mislabeled Dwarf Cavendish, and then someone on here gave me the correct ID. I would like to try Ornata out one day.

sunfish · 12-04-2011, 04:23 PM

iz · 12-04-2011, 10:07 PM

Sunfish: Wow..beautiful exotic flower. Looks so unreal.

Willow87: Ornata banana..hmm are they edible?

Olafhenny · 12-04-2011, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iz

Willow87: Ornata banana..hmm are they edible?

No, they are not, certainly not up here in the frigid north. As the name indicates, they are strictly
ornamental and due to their small size they can function as a houseplant. Since no banana can get
fruit ripened during our short growing season, the value of bananas is exclusively in the foliage for us.

I understand, though, that the Ornatas have a very long flowering season. That seems confirmed by my
observation in that park in Vietnam, that almost all Ornatas there were in bloom and they did not look
transplanted from elsewhere for display purposes. If that bloom extends for them also, while they are
inside, is something I may know in a year or so.

fmu65 · 12-05-2011, 04:09 PM

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Last knock rose just opened this morning! In Chicago!

SoBe Musa · 12-05-2011, 04:12 PM

What a splash of colors ..Thanks Jana, I needed that.!

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Originally Posted by Jananas Bananas

~JaNan

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Willow87 Willow87 Willow87's Photo Gallery Location: Plano, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8a Name: Cameron Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,815 BananaBucks : 147,227 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,016 Times Was Thanked 2,524 Times in 1,487 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: What is blooming in your garden today (other plants)? I wonder if you are talking about Musa Sikkimensis 'Red Tiger' Its has stripes and is cold hardy. The Blood bananas are very sensitive to cold. I saw several large Siam Ruby bananas at a local nursery last year. Even though it was fall at the time, the nursery was still selling them for full price lol. My Sumatrana X did pretty well indoors, even in the lower light, but it only grew a couple of leaves during the whole winter.

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Olafhenny Olafhenny's Photo Gallery Location: Penticton, BC, Okanagan Valley, Canada Find me on the map! Zone: Hardiness Zone 6 Name: Olaf Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,705 BananaBucks : 297,528 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 2,050 Times Was Thanked 2,012 Times in 876 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 77 Times	Re: What is blooming in your garden today (other plants)? Yeah, I did bring home my Ornata from there. I was relatively new to banana raising and had never heard of a banana, which is small enough to raise inside to full maturity, and when I saw them in Vietnam, I thought I had really found something. The story on how I got it home is here: I Think I Scored a Coup, the continuation here Need advice to grow a banana plant indoors all winter and some more on it here: Old corms I still think, hat I "found something", because I would have a tough time finding one here in Canada and to get life plants up from the states does have problems of long or costly shipping __________________ The reason I joined this forum was to share experiences, my own and those of others and to learn from them.

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