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Yug 07-10-2012 05:24 AM

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My 2nd plant of Passiflora Piresii. This one has more red in the blooms, and is a larger plant.

Passiflora Piresii - my 2nd plant. More red than the first one.

sunfish 07-10-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Yug (Post 199902)
My 2nd plant of Passiflora Piresii. This one has more red in the blooms, and is a larger plant.

Passiflora Piresii - my 2nd plant. More red than the first one.

Vitifolia

Yug 07-10-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 199905)
Vitifolia

I believe that is one of the parents, but it was marked as P. Piresii, and I'm not experienced enough to know one from another. I know they look similar, but that's about all I know. If a cross is made isn't there some variation in the progeny so that some resemble one parent while some resemble the other, and some have characteristics of both? In orchids that is how it works; some are almost identical to one parent or the other, and the majority have a mixture of both parents to varying degrees.

sunfish 07-10-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Yug (Post 199906)
I believe that is one of the parents, but it was marked as P. Piresii, and I'm not experienced enough to know one from another. I know they look similar, but that's about all I know. If a cross is made isn't there some variation in the progeny so that some resemble one parent while some resemble the other, and some have characteristics of both? In orchids that is how it works; some are almost identical to one parent or the other, and the majority have a mixture of both parents to varying degrees.

It is p.vitifolia 3 lobed leaves, Doesn't piresii have single lobe ?

sunfish 07-10-2012 08:35 AM

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p.vitifolia 3 lobed leaves ,white corona

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Yug 07-10-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 199909)
It is p.vitifolia 3 lobed leaves, Doesn't piresii have single lobe ?

I saw a photo on-line of a P. Piresii with large single-lobe leaves now that you mention it, but if you remember the first one I posted, the one that was more orange tinted, and I did know what it was until you providd a name? Well, that one is getting longer now, too. The new leaves are beginning to show the three lobed trait, too. I'll see if I can get a photo of it.

sunfish 07-10-2012 03:42 PM

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sunfish 07-10-2012 05:45 PM

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P.Vitifolia fruit. Vitifolia does not self all these fruit contain hybrid seed:0519:

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Dalmatiansoap 07-10-2012 05:49 PM

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nice color!!

sunfish 07-10-2012 05:53 PM

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Oddball albino flower

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Yug 07-11-2012 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 199948)

You are right about the coronas, the orange one has no white in the corona, but the larger plant does have white. Is it possible that it is still a hybrid, but just exhibits the traits of the P. vitifolia parent? I'm not stuck on the hybrid aspect either way, I wanted P. vitifolia at some point anyway.

sunfish 07-11-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Yug (Post 200010)
You are right about the coronas, the orange one has no white in the corona, but the larger plant does have white. Is it possible that it is still a hybrid, but just exhibits the traits of the P. vitifolia parent? I'm not stuck on the hybrid aspect either way, I wanted P. vitifolia at some point anyway.

Sure it could be a hybrid.

Plants of Hawaii: passiflora coccinea

Yug 07-11-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 200015)
Sure it could be a hybrid.

Plants of Hawaii: passiflora coccinea

Interesting link. The plant that I thought was P. mollissima is actually called P. tarminiana. There is apparently a beautiful white one, P. subpeltata, that I want to locate. The reddish one I just got resembles P. miniata, P. incarnata x miniata, or P. vitifolia more than a P. Piresii, with the color leaning more to the P. miniata, but a few petals fold back like the P. vitifolia so I'm not sure about what it really is.

Tks for that link. Lots of banana pictures, but not much info on the varieties they were. The Koa'e (Ae Ae) and Iholena plants were pretty obvious, but the others could be anything.

sunfish 07-13-2012 07:26 PM

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sunfish 07-14-2012 05:30 PM

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One of my hybrids

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saltydad 07-15-2012 04:35 PM

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OK, since the incarnata is so successful that I have to kill it off before it devours the entire house and garden, are there any other possibilities for zone 7a that are less obstreperous? Cerulea seems to go like crazy too. Otherwise I have to just put out in pots so I can easily move them inside for the winter.

sunfish 07-15-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saltydad (Post 200319)
OK, since the incarnata is so successful that I have to kill it off before it devours the entire house and garden, are there any other possibilities for zone 7a that are less obstreperous? Cerulea seems to go like crazy too. Otherwise I have to just put out in pots so I can easily move them inside for the winter.

Passiflora lutea

sunfish 07-17-2012 11:43 AM

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:woohoonaner:

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sunfish 07-29-2012 10:49 AM

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:woohoonaner:

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Yug 07-29-2012 07:25 PM

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Passiflora edulis with visitor.


sunfish 07-30-2012 11:20 PM

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P.Incarnata :woohoonaner:

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sunfish 08-03-2012 08:33 PM

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sunfish 08-03-2012 09:27 PM

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Dalmatiansoap 08-05-2012 10:17 AM

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I hope to be better luck with incarnata this time
:nanadrink:

sunfish 08-05-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap (Post 201732)

I hope to be better luck with incarnata this time
:nanadrink:

Is that plant from seed I sent ? That is amazing growth.My seed must be special :ha::ha::ha:

Dalmatiansoap 08-05-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 201739)
Is that plant from seed I sent ? That is amazing growth.My seed must be special :ha::ha::ha:

Oh yes, its from your seed.
Course, and some woodoo yada:ha:
:woohoonaner:

Yug 08-06-2012 09:57 PM

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Passiflora Piresii - vine is considerably larger with darker healthier looking leaves. Continues t
to crank out blooms, but never see any sign of fruit. Maybe needs another plant to breed with.

sunfish 08-06-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yug (Post 201916)
Passiflora Piresii - vine is considerably larger with darker healthier looking leaves. Continues t
to crank out blooms, but never see any sign of fruit. Maybe needs another plant to breed with.

Yes

nullzero 08-06-2012 10:02 PM

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Sunfish,

What are your best fruiting and eating quality Passiflora for your location?

sunfish 08-06-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nullzero (Post 201918)
Sunfish,

What are your best fruiting and eating quality Passiflora for your location?

Passiflora Edulis Frederick is the best. P.alata and P.phoenica second best. Frederick is easier to grow is self fertile and self pollinates

Yug 08-07-2012 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 201917)
Yes

Ahhh, I see...

I'll bet it would be 'real' happy growing right next to my P. vitifolia (or possible P. vitifolia cross) for some 'birds & bees' type relations. :03:

sunfish 08-08-2012 10:36 PM

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None chemical germination
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sunfish 08-17-2012 06:25 PM

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sunfish 08-18-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JanellZ28 (Post 202960)
I am very interested in obtaining some fresh P. Alata 'Ruby Glow' seeds. I do not have anything to trade, does anyone here sell fresh seeds?

I do not believe anyone in the U.S. has true P.phoenicea. They're all going to be crosses with another passiflora.

caliboy1994 08-19-2012 04:40 PM

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Just picked up some Passiflora 'Fredericks' from HD. :)

sunfish 08-19-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JanellZ28 (Post 203006)
OK, let me try again as I must not be understanding. I am very interested in obtaining some fresh P. phoenicea 'Ruby Glow' seeds. I have seen dried ones for sale at other sites, but does anyone here sell fresh seeds?

This plant has been grown for many years as Passiflora alata 'Ruby Glow' but more recently been identified as a species, Passiflora phoenicea,
There is p.alata and (p.alata ,ruby glow) Phoenicea. Two different plants,both very similar,flower s are almost identical,fruit is shaped different but taste the same. Not trying to be a smart a$$ just letting you know. You can find p.alata seed but not (p.alata ruby glow) phoenicea seed.

sunfish 08-19-2012 05:26 PM

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sunfish 08-23-2012 03:35 PM

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Lovely

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caliboy1994 08-23-2012 06:42 PM

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I'm giving Passiflora caerulea another shot. This time I'm going to try germinating them outside. I put several seeds in each pot, watered them in, and then covered it with a compost-perlite mixture. Hopefully it will do the trick this time, as the seeds are fresh.



I also managed to get some pictures of the parent plant's flowers.





Absolutely stunning!

PR-Giants 08-26-2012 05:41 PM

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I put them in my dog's food and let them decide where to plant.
Yesterday after harvesting some bananas, I looked up to find this.
The ground was covered with hundreds.
Dogs are great.

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sunfish 09-01-2012 10:43 AM

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caliboy1994 09-01-2012 11:32 PM

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Any idea of how long fresh caerulea seeds typically take to germinate? I haven't seen anything on mine yet.

Dalmatiansoap 09-02-2012 03:33 AM

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2-3 weeks

caliboy1994 09-02-2012 07:04 PM

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Hopefully before I leave for college. :ha:

sunfish 09-02-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 203908)
Hopefully before I leave for college. :ha:

Take them with you

caliboy1994 09-02-2012 09:54 PM

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I guess I could take them into my dorm and grow them from there! :ha:

sunfish 09-06-2012 10:35 PM

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lkailburn 09-26-2012 10:31 AM

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^Which variety is that? It looks just like the one I was going to ask about.

Can I get an ID on this variety i just bought from a nursery. Alata? Quadrangularis?




Thanks!

-Luke

sunfish 09-26-2012 09:25 PM

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momoese 09-26-2012 10:09 PM

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