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wow I have to grow these never seen them before !!

can anyone post some seeds? got no trouble covering postage ++

or suggestions on seed vendors and must have varieties? i see there are some polination concerns....

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My dad just texted me. My Passiflora 'Fredericks' back at home is starting to bloom! :woohoonaner:

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:woohoonaner:

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Hey Tony any guess as to the ID of the vine I posted on page 45?

Thanks!

-Luke

Edit: typed wrong page number. Corrected

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If it is blooming now it is most likely P.phoenicia

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Your welcome

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Hey Tony! Thanks for the ID. It is blooming now, although I only just bought it from a nursery so I don't know if there are techniques used to force bloom. Looks like phoenicia is very similar to alata and quadrangularis. The scent of the flowers is certainly interesting. Not exactly a typical sweet flower smell but interesting! Very beautiful.

Thanks again!
-Luke

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Yes alata and phoenicea flowers are almost identical quadrangularis is close.If it has two bright yellow glands on the petiole,leaf stem,it is phoemicea.No real difference in the taste of fruit between the two. You will need to pollnate the flowers with another passiflora ,caerulea works

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'Fredericks' in bloom :woohoonaner:







It's in a container. Do you think it'll set fruit?

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If there are pollinators around, it'll set fruit. I don't have many around, so if I want nice big fruit, I have to hand pollinate. Just a q-tip, works great and is quick and easy.

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Awesome. I live five hours away from where the plant is, so I'll make sure my dad does it for me. Will the fruit ripen by the end of the growing season?

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Given that it's still a small plant, shouldn't take him more than a couple minutes a day. Yes, they will ripen. It takes mine a few months to ripen, but your plant will get a lot more heat than mine, so will probably ripen faster. I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure I've harvested into January, certainly December. I've never had ones that didn't ripen because it was too cold.

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Passiflora suberosa


Passiflora edulis

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Here's a couple different varieties of Passiflora edulis: Fredericks and one I grew from seed of fruit from a plant in Moorea, French Polynesia. The flowers are very similar but distinguishable. In general, the Moorea one has more purple pigment on various parts, including the stems of the plant. Haven't been able to get the Moorea one to set fruit, despite being out there playing bee, with my q-tip.

Fredericks:
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Moorea:
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I know how to get fruit on the Moorea :)

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Is it top secret? :ha:

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No :ha::ha:

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OK, I'll bite. :ha: What do I need to do to get fruit to set on Moorea?

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Hi all, I need some help with id of my passiflora. It was sold as P. quadrangularis, but I realised straight away it wasn't the case as the leaves had 2 petiole glands, so my conclusion was P. phoenicea (according to: Passiflora alata Key). Before the flower buds opened I started to suspect that as the bracts were very small, hardly noticeable on many of them. Also the sepals seamed the same length as the petals, so I again checked the petiole glends and found some leaves (very few) with four of them. Today the first flowers opened and I'm even more confused. sepals do look shorter than petals, but not so much, the color is not as red as with P. alata, but not as purple as with P. phoenicea. Now I believe that it is either a cross between P. alata and P. phoenicea, or a variety of alata. Could it be that P. 'Ruby glow' is a cross between this two, or a form of P. alata? I've read that what used to be considered P. alata var. 'Ruby Glow" is now a separate species P. phoenicea. Again, maybe P. phoenicea and P. 'Ruby Glow' are not two of the same taxa... BTW, mine has purplish-lilac petals outside and the corona filaments seam much longer than those of P. phoenicea. To conclude, the plants has traits from both species. I was going to upload the pic, but can't do it straight from my camera, is there a way I;m not aware of? Many thanks.

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:pics:
Dobrodošla
Tony might know

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uffff, this was tough! :) Hvala Dalmatino!!!

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Could be a hybrid of the two. I have fruit with this cross.

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P.phoenicea.Fruit with P.alata pollen

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thank you Sunfish, that's my guess too, but I haven't had any experience with them before, only the info available on the internet (so much incorrect info there). btw, the color of the petals and sepals is actually a lot darker, richer purple than the camera captured, more blue hues than the red. i pollinated one flower with it's own pollen, and the other with P. caerulea, although doubt the fruit will manage to develop as it is only a matter of days when the min. (night) temps are going to drop below 15 centigrade. i'd appreciate if you'd tell me what's the min temp the flowers/fruit can stand, for P. quadrangularis too? I am expecting P. quadrangularis flowers to open any day. Also, is there a registered hybrid of P. phoenicea and P. alata? If yes, what would be the name? Sorry to bother, but searched the web and haven't managed to find any info on this. Many thanks!!!!

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ohhhh my!!! that is really and truly stunning!!! both flower and fruit!!!!! you're soooooooooooooo lucky!!!!!!

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we'll be patient and see the outcome, probably it's going to turn out something like mine...

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Phoenicea is fine at that temp.Even night time temp. of 50f is fine.Phoenicea will hold fruit all winter here with lows in the 40's.I have never got fruit on phoenicea with it's own pollen but caerulea works every time.I don't know of any registered hybrid but there must be one.Quadrangularis I don't know about other than what I've read ,no personal experience.

P.phoenicea glands,I have never seen more than 2



P.alata glands 2 and sometimes 3 or 4.

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Looking at the leaves of your plant I do not believe it is P.phoenicea

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thank you very much for all the info + beautiful pics!! still, will have to bring it in soon as the winter is approaching and cut the longest stems + try to root the cuttings although haven't had much success so far. my mystery passy is definitely not pure P. phoenicea, so we'll see... i'll try and pollinate flowers with it's own pollen, that of P. caerulea and P. quadrangularis. If there is no registered hybrid of P. phoenicea and P. alata (any direction, which is REALLY strange) you could do it!!!

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Right now no one is running the register.

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My alleged P. quadrangularis turned out to be P. x decaisneana, the flower is enormous. Should've paid more attention to details when tried to id it, such as the size of the stipules, ahh well...[IMG][/IMG]

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Your better off with this one anyhow.Use the pollen from your other plant alata

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You're right Tony, apparently P. quadrangularis is very difficult to grow in conditions different from those in it's natural habitat, especially in our extremely hot and dry summer conditions. Have done the pollination in all possible combinations, so now am hoping it was successful and the fruits will manage to develop, even though I doubt that...

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Passiflora caerulea is finally sprouting....

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New P.edulis bloom

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'Fredericks'

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Caerulea sprouts as of 10/20/12.

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Passiflora Piresii

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P. loefgrenii x P. amethystina

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Yummy

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ok the grenadilla {passion fruit}i was eating in costa rica,large and yellow/orange in color..slightly oval with a hard outer skin..flesh was clear and VERY tasty.seeds were black..any idea on type??and if i will be able to find seeds somewhere??thanks.. i love the flower photos you all have submitted

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Like this ?

Passiflora ligularis fruit

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P.maliformis

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yes just like that..can i ask a couple of questions??easy enough to grow??seeds easy enough to find??should grow here in west central FL.??and thanks so much SUNFISH