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Wow they made it to Belgium and Lithuania before they made it to Italy.

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JaNan,

is true, the Passiflora holosericea, is one, of the subgenus Decaloba, most beautiful and elegant, for the foliage and flowers.
The diameter of the flower is about 4-5 cm.
The fruit, I do not know.
This year is the first year flowering.
Possess it, by, about, 3 years.

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Passiflora morifolia unripe fruit and ripe fruit




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I cheated, I picked these up at a local big box store on sale 75% off for only two bucks each! They are both listed as "blue passion flower passiflora caerulea"

Tony will these ever fruit? I still do not know my varieties/species yet but i remember seeing the caerulea name around before

-Luke

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Yes it will fruit but is considered insipid.Pretty cold hardy and a great plant to use as a pollinizer for other varieties. I will send out runners so you may want to keep it potted

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Thanks for the info!

-Luke

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Here are some photos of my neighbor's Passiflora edulis that has taken over part of their garden fence.

Bloom


Bloom with polled-dusted carpenter bee


Fruit


More fruits

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Passiflora phoenicea 'Ruby Glow.Almost ripe


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Tony, the fruit, which taste like?
The plant is a long time, that you have?
Thank you.


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I have not tasted the fruit yet,a couple days more to ripen.The plant is on the second year fro cutting.It did fruit the first year

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Tony - I have a couple of questions for you:

Why are you getting rid of Dwf. Cavendish? Is it because of small size of fruit, or taste.

My first bananas (when I didn't know anyting about them) were some Gros Micheles, in about 1972. I kept them in a finished basement, in front of glass sliding doors, When the started pushing the tiles out of
the drop ceiling, I decided we had to get rid of them, We gave them to my wife's boss, who had an indoor pool. When they were in there, they actually fruited
I have limited space here, in New York, so I would like something that I could probably fruit at a reasonable size.
Have you ever seen/ or grown P. quadralangularis, which is supposed to be a couple of pounds.

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I am only get rid of some banana varieties because I need the space.I have some bananas that have been in 5gal.pots for 2 years because I do not have anywhere to plant them.I am getting rid of the more common varieties so I can grow the others.I am also going to get rid of my Dragon Fruit plants. I believe I have a Quadrangularis seedling growing now.I wont know till it flowers.Quadrangularis has a beautiful flower,huge fruit but the taste is nothing special.My p.alata has the best fruit of any I've tasted so far,and I can grow it without protection.Quad. is more tropical.

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How much room would P. edulis need if planted in the ground? I'm thinking about getting a vine.

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It can grow 60' or more,but you can keep it pruned.

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.Mostly p.caerulea. Got hundreds of these.Some should be hybrids

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Just tasted a fruit from p.phoenicea, very good

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Got them thanks a lot :woohoonaner:

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Tony the pictures look amazing. I love all the different varieties and how different each fruit is. Please continue to share :-)

-Luke

By the way, how long does it usually take for seeds to germinate, i have not been successful in getting any of yours to germinate so far

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I've had some germinate in 5 days others months.

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Well i'll keep at it. I'm currently using my aero-garden as a germination station. But with the house temps getting cooler (had our first snow yesterday) I think I will also put some in some starting mix, on my heat mat in my mini-greenhouse. I've had good success there.

-Luke

Edit: Also those two i picked up from the local big box are doing great. repotted and gave them a big ol trellis and they sure are enjoying it.

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At what temp. are you trying to germinate the seed ?

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P.incense,p.vitifolia and p.maliformis

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75f is plenty for germination:nanadrink:

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House temps are probably only 68*-70*, slightly less at night. The greenhouse, with a heatmat will reach 75* soil temp though. I'll get some seed potted up in there and give it a go. Same thing happened with some of my other tropicals, nothing sprouted till i moved it to the heatmat.

-Luke

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Give them a 24 hour soak in water ,it helps,although I don't soak mine

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I have seed sprouting with just outdoor temps.

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You have magic hands!

-Luke

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No still learning.I am much better at germinating seed then I was two years ago.They take very little moisture,to much and they rot.

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I'm starting some Edulis seeds again. My first ones stayed small and then died. I hope I have better success this time.

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Try to re-pot to larger container,

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I think it may have been the soil I was using. It was peat/humus but it was mostly peat. I guess I let it dry out too much and the roots couldn't grow in it. I bought some compost/greensand/ lava sand and added a lot of perlite to it. I was wondering if Edulis will grow well in containers? I'm soaking the seeds in some peroxide and warm water and most are very plump already

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My experience has been much the same. Got them to germinate and then they died. Was using coco coir and perlite but forgot that there is no nourishment in it. Now I am feeding the sprouts with MG and it seems they are doing somewhat better. Good luck.

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Thanks Noah. I'm going to plant them today. Its strange because the first edulis seeds I got to sprout only took a week to germinate but the caerulea took almost 2 months to germinate. I want to look for incarnata next year

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p.ruby glow

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p.arida

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This plant is 2 yrs. old from a cutting,easy 30' long.I don't even water it.

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13oz. fruit



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We we looking for incarnata for seed also. When it is found Tony will get all he wants and you can have some also. There are 4 plants inside the house now and they will get alot of tlc until they can go back outside under protection from the butterflies. We also have some problems sprotuing but keep plugging away and will get it right. Good luck.

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I read in one of my books that Alata is supposed to be self-fertile, but I guess that hasn't been the case for you Tony. Is that right?

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Self fertile,self compatible or self fertilizing ?
I have heard this also.I am not sure will find out next year. These fruit are P.phoenicea which is not self compatible. Okay this is were it gets weird.Phenicea works on alata,alata works on phoeniea,alata is self compatable,phoeniea is not. I was also reading that all the phoenicea in the U.S. are probably hybrids and not pure,

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Well, that sounds nearly as complicated as banana cultivar identification. So, what you're saying is that the fruits with "Alata" written on them in the photo are actually P. phoenicea, which is not self whatever. The true alata may or may not be self whatever and may or may not actually exist in the trade in the US. Yes?

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The fruit with alata written on it is a phoenicea fruit that was pollenated with alata.I heard that the phoeniceas in the United States are most likely all hybrids and will not self.Alata I am not sure about,next year I will isolated some alata flowers and see if they will self.If it does not that does not mean much either because it may be a hybrid and not true alata. So true alata and true phoenicea should self but finding the true form may be difficult :woohoonaner:

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Their so cute when young

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Harvey what is the lowest temp. your frederick got last winter ?

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Still blooming this time of year