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sunfish 11-18-2011 04:21 PM

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p.vitifolia

:08:

laserlight 11-18-2011 04:40 PM

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That red flowers amazing and its one of my favorite ones too. i have a friend in midlands England and he grows Foetidas in his window sill and he uses the fruit to make passion fruit pies.

sunfish 11-18-2011 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by laserlight (Post 179526)
That red flowers amazing and its one of my favorite ones too. i have a friend in midlands England and he grows Foetidas in his window sill and he uses the fruit to make passion fruit pies.

Lots of Passiflora enthusiast in England

lkailburn 11-21-2011 03:48 PM

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Remember the two passion vines i picked up for $2 each? Look how they've grown! The litte bamboo poles that the vines were originally on are also in the new planter box adding support to the trellis.


-Luke

sunfish 11-21-2011 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lkailburn (Post 179787)
Remember the two passion vines i picked up for $2 each? Look how they've grown! The litte bamboo poles that the vines were originally on are also in the new planter box adding support to the trellis.


-Luke

Nice

sunfish 12-14-2011 03:18 PM

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sunfish 12-18-2011 08:43 PM

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p.trisecta and p.red rover


sunfish 12-21-2011 10:35 AM

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My passiflora collection has grown to fifty varieties.Some are still flowering even with lows in the 40's.

Yug 12-21-2011 12:36 PM

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Got seed? Everytime I go to a place called 'ButterflyWorld' they are always out of what I am interested in.

sunfish 12-21-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Yug (Post 183273)
Got seed? Everytime I go to a place called 'ButterflyWorld' they are always out of what I am interested in.

Got tons of seed.I cannot ship to Hawaii unless you have an import permit or know something I don't.:08:

Yug 12-21-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 183279)
Got tons of seed.I cannot ship to Hawaii unless you have an import permit or know something I don't.:08:

I ordered seed for p. vitifolia, p. amethystina, and p. decaisneana from 'ButterflyWorld' with no problems. If I had ordered a plant, I would have needed an import permit. In the case of seed, since there is no soil involved, it is treated differently.

I have also ordered seed from other Seed Companies on-line, and it also came in with no problems, no permit, and was clearly marked as seeds.

sunfish 12-21-2011 01:26 PM

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http://nationalplantboard.org/docs/summaries/hawaii.pdf

sunfish 12-21-2011 01:31 PM

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Ebay seller (Please note: No shipping of plants to destinations outside of the U.S., and no shipping of Passiflora plants or seeds to Hawaii.)

Yug 12-21-2011 02:04 PM

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Well, I ordered it, it was sent, and there was no problem. Perhaps it is permitted under certain conditions. The seed had no parts of the plant with it, and they looked quite dry. I already know not to attempt to order any P. mollissima since it is considered a pest here. We already have P. suberosa, P. mollissima, P. quadrangularis, P. edulis (yellow and purple) growing here. If you don't wish to, I understand; I'm just saying I've ordered from legitimate companies, and gotten seeds. One company just last week sent me a seed catalogue for another order. (heirloomseeds.com)

Oh, regarding ebay, some folks just don't want to bother sending to Hawaii. Also, I don't buy stuff of ebay anyway. If I wish to order something, I check to see if they say no shipping to Hawaii, or only ship to the continental US, or just to the contiguous states (which excludes Hawaii and Alaska). Some places just don't wish to bother with it since it is easier for them not to do so, not necessarily because it would have been illegal.

I'm not trying to get anyone in hot water, and I don't work for the 'Ag' dept., I'm just trying to grow something besides all the p. suberosa, and p. edulis that is all around my garden.

sunfish 12-21-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Yug (Post 183289)
Well, I ordered it, it was sent, and there was no problem. Perhaps it is permitted under certain conditions. The seed had no parts of the plant with it, and they looked quite dry. I already know not to attempt to order any P. mollissima since it is considered a pest here. We already have P. suberosa, P. mollissima, P. quadrangularis, P. edulis (yellow and purple) growing here. If you don't wish to, I understand; I'm just saying I've ordered from legitimate companies, and gotten seeds. One company just last week sent me a seed catalogue for another order. (heirloomseeds.com)

Oh, regarding ebay, some folks just want to bother sending to Hawaii. Also, I don't buy stuff of ebay anyway. If I wish to order something, I check to see if they say no shipping to Hawaii, or only ship to the continental US, or just to the contiguous states (which excludes Hawaii and Alaska). Some places just don't wish to bother with it since it is easier for them not to do so, not necessarily because it would have been illegal.

I don't know how it works .I only know what the regulations say.

Yug 12-21-2011 02:18 PM

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Well, your call. If you wish, I can pm the types I'm looking for, or not.

But, thanks regardless of how you choose.

sunfish 01-07-2012 11:32 PM

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p.vitifolia hybrids :woohoonaner:


sunfish 01-07-2012 11:36 PM

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p.phoenicea and p.alata hybrids :woohoonaner:


more later :woohoonaner:

nannerfunboi 01-08-2012 11:53 AM

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sunfish..my golly.. how many passiflora plants do u have???
1000s.. :)
every time i check out your pics of blooming ones.. i ache.. i
have got to order me some i guess..
ive been saying for awhile..and get on to other projects..but those
vines/esp flowers are super..
keep posting pics.. i know it'll inspire me to get some..
:)

sunfish 01-08-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nannerfunboi (Post 185001)
sunfish..my golly.. how many passiflora plants do u have???
1000s.. :)
every time i check out your pics of blooming ones.. i ache.. i
have got to order me some i guess..
ive been saying for awhile..and get on to other projects..but those
vines/esp flowers are super..
keep posting pics.. i know it'll inspire me to get some..
:)

I have around 500 plants and growing.I hope to have lots of new flowers come summer.

venturabananas 01-08-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 185004)
I have around 500 plants and growing.I hope to have lots of new flowers come summer.

Where the heck are you going to put new plants Tony?

sunfish 01-08-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 185023)
Where the heck are you going to put new plants Tony?

I don't know.I need a vacant lot

venturabananas 01-08-2012 05:59 PM

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I hear you. My friend just bought a house near us and I'm envisioning all the plants I could plant in his yard! But I don't think he'll go for that. And he doesn't like passionfruit.

sunfish 01-08-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 185027)
I hear you. My friend just bought a house near us and I'm envisioning all the plants I could plant in his yard! But I don't think he'll go for that. And he doesn't like passionfruit.

I have no choice but get rid of some of my citrus , figs,palms,bananas,dragon fruit,pineapples to make room for passion vines.

sunfish 01-10-2012 06:48 PM

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I have so many passion vines it's ridiculous.:woohoonaner::08::goteam:

momoese 01-10-2012 09:38 PM

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You going to start selling the fruit at the farmers market?

sunfish 01-10-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 185204)
You going to start selling the fruit at the farmers market?

I want to sell fruits and plants and seed. Just to recoup some $ so I can grow more :08:

Dalmatiansoap 01-11-2012 09:27 AM

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I wish we have something like farmers markets, thats a great source for all planting material.

sunfish 01-11-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap (Post 185236)
I wish we have something like farmers markets, thats a great source for all planting material.

You can start one.

Dalmatiansoap 01-11-2012 09:41 AM

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Maybe, but unfortunely that depends on local politicans. They all just talk about that but all stops when they need to support domestic production :(

lkailburn 01-11-2012 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 185028)
I have no choice but get rid of some of my citrus , figs,palms,bananas,dragon fruit,pineapples to make room for passion vines.

getting rid of some figs eh? what kind :08:

btw, i accidentally snapped off a 6" tip from one of our vines and decided to stick it in some seed starting soil with a plastic tent over top to see if i could root it. will be fun experiment

-Luke

sunfish 01-11-2012 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lkailburn (Post 185248)
getting rid of some figs eh? what kind :08:

btw, i accidentally snapped off a 6" tip from one of our vines and decided to stick it in some seed starting soil with a plastic tent over top to see if i could root it. will be fun experiment

-Luke

Got all the usual fig,to bad I can't ship.Their to big anyhow.
Some passiflora root very easy.Just keep it warm 65f or above,light but not direct sun and just damp.

sunfish 01-12-2012 07:17 PM

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Got a new passiflora today p.alata :08:

sunfish 01-13-2012 07:35 PM

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Two unrelated clones p.ligularis. Got these in trade yesterday :goteam:

sunfish 01-21-2012 01:52 PM

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p.incense


p.panama red


p.flavicarpa


sunfish 01-29-2012 03:08 PM

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Potted up some more seedlings


venturabananas 02-06-2012 02:35 AM

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Thanks to Sunfish, I was able to try a fruit from P. phoenicea. I had lots of P. edulis "Frederick" around from my plant, so I did a side by side comparison. I was surprised at how different they were, in many ways. The flavor was not remotely similar. Frederick basically tastes like anything sold as having passionfruit flavor (e.g., juices). P. phoenicea's taste I really don't even know how to describe, maybe melon-like. Definitely a nice flavor, but hard to describe. It was also sweeter, which isn't saying that much, because my Frederick fruit are almost always pretty sour, but phoenicea was not sour at all. Despite the somewhat larger fruit of P. phoenicea, the actual edible, flavorful part, was less than that of Frederick because of the thick rind of the phoenicea and the large seeds with less pulp.

It's always nice to try something new, especially something like P. phoenicea, which really was nothing like anything I've had before. Thanks Tony.


sunfish 02-06-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 186853)
Thanks to Sunfish, I was able to try a fruit from P. phoenicea. I had lots of P. edulis "Frederick" around from my plant, so I did a side by side comparison. I was surprised at how different they were, in many ways. The flavor was not remotely similar. Frederick basically tastes like anything sold as having passionfruit flavor (e.g., juices). P. phoenicea's taste I really don't even know how to describe, maybe melon-like. Definitely a nice flavor, but hard to describe. It was also sweeter, which isn't saying that much, because my Frederick fruit are almost always pretty sour, but phoenicea was not sour at all. Despite the somewhat larger fruit of P. phoenicea, the actual edible, flavorful part, was less than that of Frederick because of the thick rind of the phoenicea and the large seeds with less pulp.

It's always nice to try something new, especially something like P. phoenicea, which really was nothing like anything I've had before. Thanks Tony.


It is a different taste and I can't describe it either.

Richard 02-06-2012 12:50 PM

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If you think about the difference in tastes between different species of citrus, then it makes sense that passiflora can have a wide variation as well.

venturabananas 02-06-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 186867)
If you think about the difference in tastes between different species of citrus, then it makes sense that passiflora can have a wide variation as well.

Agreed. But if all you'd ever eaten was Satsuma mandarins and you didn't realize how different citrus can be and then you had a grapefruit, you'd be surprised! Being clueless about Passiflora fruits, I assumed they'd all have some variation on the flavor you get in commercial passionfruit juice. Boy was I wrong. Same sort of thing as comparing babaco to papayas. They aren't similar at all.

lkailburn 02-06-2012 02:10 PM

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I love reading the taste description comparisons. Post up more as you all get to sample. I've only ever tasted a frederich(i believe that's what it was).

Side note, does anyone have some creative suggestions on how to retrellis and/or repot this:



When we bought the two starter plants i had no idea they would grow so much this winter. We got them in half gallon or one gallon pots, and they were maybe 2feet of vine. Since then we just keep wrapping and wrapping the vines down and around but this summer i have a feeling it's going to explode with even more growth!
-Luke

sunfish 02-06-2012 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lkailburn (Post 186872)
I love reading the taste description comparisons. Post up more as you all get to sample. I've only ever tasted a frederich(i believe that's what it was).

Side note, does anyone have some creative suggestions on how to retrellis and/or repot this:



When we bought the two starter plants i had no idea they would grow so much this winter. We got them in half gallon or one gallon pots, and they were maybe 2feet of vine. Since then we just keep wrapping and wrapping the vines down and around but this summer i have a feeling it's going to explode with even more growth!
-Luke

That plant will spread 60'. You can start hanging wire on the ceiling or trim the plant. People who over winter passion vines trim them back every year and let them grow out in spring.

Re-potting is no problem just pull the root-ball out and stick it in a bigger pot.

Richard 02-06-2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lkailburn (Post 186872)
When we bought the two starter plants ...

What a great picture of the passiflora in the window with the snow-patched streets outdoors!

sunfish 02-06-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 186880)
What a great picture of the passiflora in the window with the snow-patched streets outdoors!

It will be even better when it flowers :woohoonaner:

JuniPerez 02-06-2012 03:21 PM

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I have a couple of incarnata vines which I overwinter indoors too. I trim mine back (they grow like crazy) and when I do, I try to root the cuttings since so many local folk have been asking for plants. So don't toss out the cuttings… try rooting them.

sunfish 02-06-2012 03:29 PM

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JuniPerez 02-06-2012 04:06 PM

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Sunfish, you ARE the passiflora god of the west.

sunfish 02-06-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JuniPerez (Post 186889)
Sunfish, you ARE the passiflora god of the west.

I'm trying :ha:

lkailburn 02-07-2012 09:57 AM

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How extensive are the root systems? I'm wondering if i'll need to repot it in the spring to get ready for the summer growth.
Thanks all. Passion vines are one of my new favorites, i just love the growth that they put on

Tony - i have two seedling passiflora growing right now, from the seed packets you sent me. i limited myself to just two more for fear that if i sprouted more they would take over the whole house(anyone remember in jumanji hahha). And of COURSE, i lost the plant tags i had with them so i don't even know which two seedlings i kept haha. i guess i'll know if they ever flower :-P

-Luke

sunfish 02-07-2012 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lkailburn (Post 186925)
How extensive are the root systems? I'm wondering if i'll need to repot it in the spring to get ready for the summer growth.
Thanks all. Passion vines are one of my new favorites, i just love the growth that they put on

Tony - i have two seedling passiflora growing right now, from the seed packets you sent me. i limited myself to just two more for fear that if i sprouted more they would take over the whole house(anyone remember in jumanji hahha). And of COURSE, i lost the plant tags i had with them so i don't even know which two seedlings i kept haha. i guess i'll know if they ever flower :-P

-Luke

Passion vines don't mind being root bound . I have some big plants in 5gal. pots.A 10gal. pot would be as large as you would ever need.Post a pic of the seedlings maybe someone can ID them.


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