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ez 10-20-2013 06:33 PM
Share your roadside banana photos
 
Two large mats very close together next to Flamingo road each mat has one bunch with a 10-12' p-stem. What variety do you think this is?










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sunfish 10-20-2013 08:09 PM
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Manzano ? Maybe

Musa Manzano - Bananas Wiki

ez 10-20-2013 10:22 PM
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Sunfish if you mean Hawaiian apple it's very possible. The Manzano that I grow has a 7-8' p-stem and looks more like the first photo from Gabe15.

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Originally Posted by Gabe15 (Post 139993)
The 'Manzano' have thin skin and more rounded fruits, whereas the 'Brazilian' has thicker skin and rather more angular fruit. But that doesn't really mean that what you had was either necessarily. The photo you show from Jon's site is 'Mazano'. It's really hard to say what variety you ate unless you could show us a photo of the actual fruit you ate, preferably on the plant. The fruit bunches look very different, here are some photos.

Manzano type, 'Ungoye Sweet'


'Santa Catarina Prata'/'Dwarf Brazilian' ("Hawaiian Apple"), one of the most common varieties in Hawaii.

sunfish 10-20-2013 10:35 PM
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Venturabananas will set use straight

venturabananas 10-21-2013 11:31 AM
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Well, since Sunfish put me on the spot...

My best guess is tall Brazilian (which is called Ladyfinger in Australia, or at least an extremely close relative is called that, and often called Ladyfinger in the US, Hawaiian Apple in Hawaii, etc.). The hands look too closely spaced to be Manzano. The bunch hanging at a 45 degree angle from the p-stem and then the rachis with a sharp downward bend are typical traits of Brazilian (but not exclusive to it). On the other hand, that would be one heck of a bunch for Brazilian, in terms of number of fingers and hands. So I'm not positive that it is Brazilian.

EZ, if your "Manzano" consistently fruits at 7-8', then it probably isn't Manzano, which typically fruits at 10'+. Hawaiian Apple (Brazilian) seldom fruits at less than 10'. That would be a typical height for Dwarf Brazilian (Prata Ana, Dwarf Hawaiian Apple). The fruit of Dwarf Brazilian and Manzano are easy to tell apart: thick peel for DB, thin peel for Manzano; and if Manzano is the least bit underripe (e.g., any green on the peel at all), it is essentially inedible because it is so astringent.

ez 10-21-2013 03:04 PM
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Thank you Mark I'm going to start a new thread with more detail on my plant and maybe I will be able to give it a positive ID.

sunfish 10-21-2013 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 232128)
Well, since Sunfish put me on the spot...

My best guess is tall Brazilian (which is called Ladyfinger in Australia, or at least an extremely close relative is called that, and often called Ladyfinger in the US, Hawaiian Apple in Hawaii, etc.). The hands look too closely spaced to be Manzano. The bunch hanging at a 45 degree angle from the p-stem and then the rachis with a sharp downward bend are typical traits of Brazilian (but not exclusive to it). On the other hand, that would be one heck of a bunch for Brazilian, in terms of number of fingers and hands. So I'm not positive that it is Brazilian.

EZ, if your "Manzano" consistently fruits at 7-8', then it probably isn't Manzano, which typically fruits at 10'+. Hawaiian Apple (Brazilian) seldom fruits at less than 10'. That would be a typical height for Dwarf Brazilian (Prata Ana, Dwarf Hawaiian Apple). The fruit of Dwarf Brazilian and Manzano are easy to tell apart: thick peel for DB, thin peel for Manzano; and if Manzano is the least bit underripe (e.g., any green on the peel at all), it is essentially inedible because it is so astringent.
I thought Brazillian had persistent bracts ?

venturabananas 10-21-2013 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 232156)
I thought Brazillian had persistent bracts ?
No, Dwarf Brazilian does, but not tall Brazilian and other full sized, close relatives in the Pome subgroup.

Richard 10-21-2013 08:55 PM
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Now in terms of "Share your roadside banana photos" ... in some places you only need google street view! My neighborhood is a good example ...

Abnshrek 10-21-2013 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 232128)
if Manzano is the least bit underripe (e.g., any green on the peel at all), it is essentially inedible because it is so astringent.
I can attest to that I tried one after I picked some up @ Fiesta in Dallas and spit it out, but tonight I noticed one had a split peel.. Man it was fantastic.. :^)

PR-Giants 10-22-2013 09:23 AM
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Some Roadside Manzano Bunches

venturabananas 10-22-2013 11:31 AM
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Maybe it is Manzano, based on Keith's photos. Try some just before they're full yellow and see if they are edible or not and you'll know if it is Manzano.

ez 10-22-2013 06:46 PM
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Musa Blue Java (Ice Cream)

ez 10-24-2013 07:24 PM
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Photos were taken at a local nursery the one with fruit has a 3' p-stem

PR-Giants 10-24-2013 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 199507)

Some Enano Gigante plants growing near the highway.

I didn't measure the height but they were about 3.5 feet.

jul 3 2012
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ez 10-27-2013 06:16 PM
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There are two mats with fruit 8-9' p-stem







ez 11-24-2013 10:42 PM
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Three large mats all of them have fruit at 5' p-stem looks like Dwarf Cavendish.






venturabananas 11-25-2013 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ez (Post 234690)
Three large mats all of them have fruit at 5' p-stem looks like Dwarf Cavendish.
I'd agree with that.

dana mastro 11-25-2013 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ez (Post 232312)
Musa Blue Java (Ice Cream)
that blue java pup looks exactly like mine! almost like a mirror image! WEIRD I should take a pic of it exactly how you did and you would be amazed

ez 11-25-2013 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dana mastro (Post 234699)
that blue java pup looks exactly like mine! almost like a mirror image! WEIRD I should take a pic of it exactly how you did and you would be amazed
I would like to see your Blue Java pictures and here are more photos I took that day.


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