Possible Java Blue?

trinity1100 · 08-02-2020, 04:18 PM

I purchased this banana plant last summer. It started flowering this year. It was labeled as Java Blue 'Icecream'. It is around 6 feet tall. The fruit lacks the bluish green tinge. Will it change color later?

Link to pictures - https://imgur.com/a/oIChdVj

Backyard Banana Joe · 08-02-2020, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by trinity1100

I purchased this banana plant last summer. It started flowering this year. It was labeled as Java Blue 'Icecream'. It is around 6 feet tall. The fruit lacks the bluish green tinge. Will it change color later?

Link to pictures - https://imgur.com/a/oIChdVj

I can say with 100% certainty that you are the proud owner of a dwarf namwa.

trinity1100 · 08-02-2020, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Backyard Banana Joe

I can say with 100% certainty that you are the proud owner of a dwarf namwa.

Thank you so much. Really excited.

Akula · 08-02-2020, 09:33 PM

My namwa (tall) fruits always have a small bit of purple on the banana fingers when they have just opened. It fades in time. Did your bananas have any coloring on them when the bract first opened?

Q for BBJ: Do Dwarf Namwa's have the purple color on new fingers like tall namwa?

trinity1100 · 08-02-2020, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula

My namwa (tall) fruits always have a small bit of purple on the banana fingers when they have just opened. It fades in time. Did your bananas have any coloring on them when the bract first opened?

Q for BBJ: Do Dwarf Namwa's have the purple color on new fingers like tall namwa?

This is the picture I have - https://imgur.com/a/g4S6cYD

Akula · 08-02-2020, 10:30 PM

Here's a pic of newly uncovered tall namwa bananas. See the purple coloring where they attach to the peduncle?

trinity1100 · 08-02-2020, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Akula

Here's a pic of newly uncovered tall namwa bananas. See the purple coloring where they attach to the peduncle?

Oh...ok. Mine is not purple.

Backyard Banana Joe · 08-03-2020, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Akula

My namwa (tall) fruits always have a small bit of purple on the banana fingers when they have just opened. It fades in time. Did your bananas have any coloring on them when the bract first opened?

Q for BBJ: Do Dwarf Namwa's have the purple color on new fingers like tall namwa?

Not sure. Never seen a dwarf namwa bloom. They just look like namwa bananas and since it is only six feet tall I thought dwarf namwa. Maybe I am wrong

. Take a picture of the whole plant.

trinity1100 · 08-03-2020, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Backyard Banana Joe

Not sure. Never seen a dwarf namwa bloom. They just look like namwa bananas and since it is only six feet tall I thought dwarf namwa. Maybe I am wrong

. Take a picture of the whole plant.

Will send it soon.

trinity1100 · 08-03-2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by trinity1100

Will send it soon.

https://imgur.com/a/VR6wj7u

This is the plant.

Backyard Banana Joe · 08-03-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by trinity1100

https://imgur.com/a/VR6wj7u

This is the plant.

Looks like namwa to ME, but what does everyone else think?

Akula · 08-03-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Backyard Banana Joe

Looks like namwa to ME, but what does everyone else think?

199/200 it always turns out to be a namwa so that is a good bet...however this plant doesn't show the normal namwa tells from what I have seen in my patch. I don't see any red lining on the edge of the mid ribs, can't make any determination based on pstem since its covered by old, dead growth, leaves seem to be a bit shorter than what I see on my namwas, and the fruit although similiarly shaped does not have the purplish ring where the fingers connect to the platform/peduncle. Also the crown looks different to me. Mine usually make an initial crown then shoot up a bit with three or so leaves and then the flower comes out.

Tall namwas can fruit at short height if they lack resources so height is not a major indicator for me.

I suggest making a link from your post in the banana id to this thread and maybe Gabe will drop in and give us the definitive answer.

trinity1100 · 08-03-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Akula

199/200 it always turns out to be a namwa so that is a good bet...however this plant doesn't show the normal namwa tells from what I have seen in my patch. I don't see any red lining on the edge of the mid ribs, can't make any determination based on pstem since its covered by old, dead growth, leaves seem to be a bit shorter than what I see on my namwas, and the fruit although similiarly shaped does not have the purplish ring where the fingers connect to the platform/peduncle. Also the crown looks different to me. Mine usually make an initial crown then shoot up a bit with three or so leaves and then the flower comes out.

Tall namwas can fruit at short height if they lack resources so height is not a major indicator for me.

I suggest making a link from your post in the banana id to this thread and maybe Gabe will drop in and give us the definitive answer.

I will link this post to banana identification. Hope to get an answer. Thank you for the detailed reply.

trinity1100 · 08-03-2020, 12:03 PM

Blue Java?

Continuing this post in another banana identification thread. Please click the link above. I have posted a new picture of the plant take in 2019.

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Akula Akula's Photo Gallery Location: Pensacola, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: Zone 9a Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 1,236 BananaBucks : 93,633 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 2,539 Times Was Thanked 2,382 Times in 809 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 128 Times	Re: Possible Java Blue? My namwa (tall) fruits always have a small bit of purple on the banana fingers when they have just opened. It fades in time. Did your bananas have any coloring on them when the bract first opened? Q for BBJ: Do Dwarf Namwa's have the purple color on new fingers like tall namwa?

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trinity1100 Location: Tomball,TX Zone: 9 Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 35 BananaBucks : 7,774 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 25 Times Was Thanked 41 Times in 23 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Possible Java Blue? Blue Java? Continuing this post in another banana identification thread. Please click the link above. I have posted a new picture of the plant take in 2019. Last edited by trinity1100 : 08-03-2020 at 01:51 PM.

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