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trinity1100 08-02-2020 04:18 PM

Possible Java Blue?
 
I purchased this banana plant last summer. It started flowering this year. It was labeled as Java Blue 'Icecream'. It is around 6 feet tall. The fruit lacks the bluish green tinge. Will it change color later?

Link to pictures - https://imgur.com/a/oIChdVj

Backyard Banana Joe 08-02-2020 06:00 PM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trinity1100 (Post 333392)
I purchased this banana plant last summer. It started flowering this year. It was labeled as Java Blue 'Icecream'. It is around 6 feet tall. The fruit lacks the bluish green tinge. Will it change color later?

Link to pictures - https://imgur.com/a/oIChdVj

I can say with 100% certainty that you are the proud owner of a dwarf namwa.

trinity1100 08-02-2020 06:35 PM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Backyard Banana Joe (Post 333397)
I can say with 100% certainty that you are the proud owner of a dwarf namwa.

Thank you so much. Really excited.

Akula 08-02-2020 09:33 PM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
My namwa (tall) fruits always have a small bit of purple on the banana fingers when they have just opened. It fades in time. Did your bananas have any coloring on them when the bract first opened?

Q for BBJ: Do Dwarf Namwa's have the purple color on new fingers like tall namwa?

trinity1100 08-02-2020 09:59 PM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akula (Post 333409)
My namwa (tall) fruits always have a small bit of purple on the banana fingers when they have just opened. It fades in time. Did your bananas have any coloring on them when the bract first opened?

Q for BBJ: Do Dwarf Namwa's have the purple color on new fingers like tall namwa?

This is the picture I have - https://imgur.com/a/g4S6cYD

Akula 08-02-2020 10:30 PM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Here's a pic of newly uncovered tall namwa bananas. See the purple coloring where they attach to the peduncle?


trinity1100 08-02-2020 10:33 PM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akula (Post 333412)
Here's a pic of newly uncovered tall namwa bananas. See the purple coloring where they attach to the peduncle?


Oh...ok. Mine is not purple.

Backyard Banana Joe 08-03-2020 09:48 AM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akula (Post 333409)
My namwa (tall) fruits always have a small bit of purple on the banana fingers when they have just opened. It fades in time. Did your bananas have any coloring on them when the bract first opened?

Q for BBJ: Do Dwarf Namwa's have the purple color on new fingers like tall namwa?


Not sure. Never seen a dwarf namwa bloom. They just look like namwa bananas and since it is only six feet tall I thought dwarf namwa. Maybe I am wrong:08:. Take a picture of the whole plant.

trinity1100 08-03-2020 09:53 AM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Backyard Banana Joe (Post 333436)
Not sure. Never seen a dwarf namwa bloom. They just look like namwa bananas and since it is only six feet tall I thought dwarf namwa. Maybe I am wrong:08:. Take a picture of the whole plant.

Will send it soon.

trinity1100 08-03-2020 10:04 AM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trinity1100 (Post 333439)
Will send it soon.

https://imgur.com/a/VR6wj7u

This is the plant.

Backyard Banana Joe 08-03-2020 10:33 AM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trinity1100 (Post 333443)
https://imgur.com/a/VR6wj7u

This is the plant.

Looks like namwa to ME, but what does everyone else think?

Akula 08-03-2020 11:21 AM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Backyard Banana Joe (Post 333444)
Looks like namwa to ME, but what does everyone else think?

199/200 it always turns out to be a namwa so that is a good bet...however this plant doesn't show the normal namwa tells from what I have seen in my patch. I don't see any red lining on the edge of the mid ribs, can't make any determination based on pstem since its covered by old, dead growth, leaves seem to be a bit shorter than what I see on my namwas, and the fruit although similiarly shaped does not have the purplish ring where the fingers connect to the platform/peduncle. Also the crown looks different to me. Mine usually make an initial crown then shoot up a bit with three or so leaves and then the flower comes out.

Tall namwas can fruit at short height if they lack resources so height is not a major indicator for me.

I suggest making a link from your post in the banana id to this thread and maybe Gabe will drop in and give us the definitive answer.

trinity1100 08-03-2020 11:32 AM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akula (Post 333448)
199/200 it always turns out to be a namwa so that is a good bet...however this plant doesn't show the normal namwa tells from what I have seen in my patch. I don't see any red lining on the edge of the mid ribs, can't make any determination based on pstem since its covered by old, dead growth, leaves seem to be a bit shorter than what I see on my namwas, and the fruit although similiarly shaped does not have the purplish ring where the fingers connect to the platform/peduncle. Also the crown looks different to me. Mine usually make an initial crown then shoot up a bit with three or so leaves and then the flower comes out.

Tall namwas can fruit at short height if they lack resources so height is not a major indicator for me.

I suggest making a link from your post in the banana id to this thread and maybe Gabe will drop in and give us the definitive answer.

I will link this post to banana identification. Hope to get an answer. Thank you for the detailed reply.

trinity1100 08-03-2020 12:03 PM

Re: Possible Java Blue?
 
http://www.bananas.org/f12/blue-java-51064.html

Continuing this post in another banana identification thread. Please click the link above. I have posted a new picture of the plant take in 2019.


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