Passiflora - Page 28

oakshadows · 09-27-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Nice! I'm starting some from seeds - Cotton leaf, edulis mix, and some noids. So far two noids and two edulis have popped up so far. More are starting to emerge, no cotton leaf yet.
I am browsing for seeds or cuttings - any suggested sellers or sites?

Tiki, Tony is very generous and has a lot of varities. We were most pleased and surprised with what he sent us. We are looking around here for plants that have ripe fruit but it seems that they might not be real popular since we have a bad caterpillar problem. Going to see if my new friend has any ripe fruit and then I can repay Tony and if you want some let us know. The fruit is p. incarnata which I believe Tony uses for cross pollinating.

Dragonfly · 09-27-2011, 03:12 PM

No seeds unfortunately. I planted a bunch and passed on the rest to a nice lady in TX. I'll check out that ebay site again - that's who I got my edulis mix from.

ago58 · 09-29-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

Oops.Make that40 mature plants and over 100 seedlings and 30 rooted cuttings

Hi Tony,

compliments for your passion flowers.
What varieties do you have?

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sunfish · 09-29-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ago58

Hi Tony,

compliments for your passion flowers.
What varieties do you have?

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Thanks.I have
kewensis,tarminiana,ruby glow,caerulea,rubra,capsularis,maliformis,vitifolia,aurantia,foe tida,alata,edulis frederick,incense,edulis edulis,incarnata,tripartita mollissima,coral glow,belotii,constance elliot,amethestia,amethyest a couple unknowns and another 30 varieties as seedlings.

sunfish · 09-29-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ago58

Hi Tony,

compliments for your passion flowers.
What varieties do you have?

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Which ones are you growing ? I see a seed trade in the future ?

ago58 · 09-29-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

Thanks.I have
kewensis,tarminiana,ruby glow,caerulea,rubra,capsularis,maliformis,vitifolia,aurantia,foe tida,alata,edulis frederick,incense,edulis edulis,incarnata,tripartita mollissima,coral glow,belotii,constance elliot,amethestia,amethyest a couple unknowns and another 30 varieties as seedlings.

A beautiful collection of passion flowers.
Surely there an advantage for the very mild climate.

I have:

caerulea,incarnata,alata,phonicea,actinia,laurifolia,quadrangula ris,ligularis,holosericea,morifolia,amethyst,xviolacea,vitifolia ,
maliformis;

various hybrids,
including:
panama panama red and gold, pandora, etc..

Several were obtained from seed;
I have about a 25-30 as seedlings.

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sunfish · 09-29-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ago58

A beautiful collection of passion flowers.
Surely there an advantage for the very mild climate.

I have:

caerulea,incarnata,alata,phonicea,actinia,laurifolia,quadrangula ris,ligularis,holosericea,morifolia,amethyst,xviolacea,vitifolia ,
maliformis;

various hybrids,
including:
panama panama red and gold, pandora, etc..

Several were obtained from seed;
I have about a 25-30 as seedlings.

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Great.Are you pollinating the p.phonicea with alata ? Is the alata self compatible ?
I have around 120 ruby glow(p.phonicea) fruit some using alata and some caerulea

ago58 · 09-29-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

Which ones are you growing ? I see a seed trade in the future ?

certainly,

some of the seeds obtained, may be exchanged with other varieties,
or sold.

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Willow87 · 09-29-2011, 01:11 PM

Here is a picture of my Blue Crown passion flower grown from seed. It had a difficult summer this year. But now that it has cooled down, its starting to grow again.

ago58 · 09-29-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

Great.Are you pollinating the p.phonicea with alata ? Is the alata self compatible ?
I have around 120 ruby glow(p.phonicea) fruit some using alata and some caerulea

for the moment, the phoenicea, no,
yet done so blossoms.
There I have almost 2 years.
Maybe this year.
We'll see.
The alata from mid-October until January is literally filled with flowers.
Possess it, for about 5 years.

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ago58 · 09-29-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

Great.Are you pollinating the p.phonicea with alata ? Is the alata self compatible ?
I have around 120 ruby glow(p.phonicea) fruit some using alata and some caerulea

the alata and phoenicea, should be compatible.
Pollinate the alata, with caerulea is possible.
However,
to me, when the winged flowers, the flowers no longer caerulea.
This year I bought another alata genetically different.
We'll see what happens next year.

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sunfish · 09-29-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow87

Here is a picture of my Blue Crown passion flower grown from seed. It had a difficult summer this year. But now that it has cooled down, its starting to grow again.

Still has the thin leaves I see or have they changed ?

Willow87 · 09-29-2011, 02:45 PM

Quite a few leaves are still thin. I wonder if its some type of deficiency? I've been giving it a little fertilizer every once and a while. Some of the newer leaves are thicker though. The stems are still thin too.

sunfish · 09-29-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ago58

for the moment, the phoenicea, no,
yet done so blossoms.
There I have almost 2 years.
Maybe this year.
We'll see.
The alata from mid-October until January is literally filled with flowers.
Possess it, for about 5 years.

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So alata is self fertile ? The fruit is very sweet .

sunfish · 09-29-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow87

Quite a few leaves are still thin. I wonder if its some type of deficiency? I've been giving it a little fertilizer every once and a while. Some of the newer leaves are thicker though. The stems are still thin too.

Something I didn't know when you first asked about the thin leaves.Cauerlea is not self fertile so something else pollinated the plant.It could have been another caerulea or a different variety. The seed are hybrid you'll have to wait for flowers to know what you have. You can give it the same fert. as you do your bananas. If you get flowers make sure you post picks.Ante got flowers on seedlings from last year so next year maybe you'll get blossoms.

sunfish · 09-29-2011, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ago58

the alata and phoenicea, should be compatible.
Pollinate the alata, with caerulea is possible.
However,
to me, when the winged flowers, the flowers no longer caerulea.
This year I bought another alata genetically different.
We'll see what happens next year.

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I sent you a private message

Willow87 · 09-29-2011, 03:15 PM

I didn't know that caerulea have to have another plant to pollinate it. Maybe that's why my first caerulea never produced fruit. I was always curious about that. I'm glad you told me that. I really do hope to see flowers next year and I'll keep you updated with pictures.

ago58 · 09-29-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

So alata is self fertile ? The fruit is very sweet .

The alata,
that I know of, is not self-fertile.
There want to, again, another clone of winged, or pollen caerulea.
Anchor,
I have not tasted.

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sunfish · 09-29-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Willow87

I didn't know that caerulea have to have another plant to pollinate it. Maybe that's why my first caerulea never produced fruit. I was always curious about that. I'm glad you told me that. I really do hope to see flowers next year and I'll keep you updated with pictures.

Lots of passiflora will cross with caerulea and vice versa.

P.S. Just wanted to say I am no expert and I only know what I have read.

sunfish · 09-29-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ago58

The alata,
that I know of, is not self-fertile.
There want to, again, another clone of winged, or pollen caerulea.
Anchor,
I have not tasted.

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I pollinated my alata with it's own pollen and caerulea.Something worked .I know alata works on phoenicea 'Ruby Glow' but ruby glow does not work on alata.The problem with both these plants is you need to hand pollinate the bees are not large enough to do the job.

09-27-2011, 03:12 PM	#542 (permalink)
Dragonfly Location: Bottom of the coffee cup, Washington Zone: 7b Name: Tiki Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 17 BananaBucks : 9,790 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1 Times Was Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Passiflora No seeds unfortunately. I planted a bunch and passed on the rest to a nice lady in TX. I'll check out that ebay site again - that's who I got my edulis mix from.

09-29-2011, 01:11 PM	#549 (permalink)
Willow87 Willow87 Willow87's Photo Gallery Location: Plano, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8a Name: Cameron Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,815 BananaBucks : 136,670 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,016 Times Was Thanked 2,524 Times in 1,487 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Passiflora Here is a picture of my Blue Crown passion flower grown from seed. It had a difficult summer this year. But now that it has cooled down, its starting to grow again.

09-29-2011, 02:45 PM	#553 (permalink)
Willow87 Willow87 Willow87's Photo Gallery Location: Plano, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8a Name: Cameron Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,815 BananaBucks : 136,670 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,016 Times Was Thanked 2,524 Times in 1,487 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Passiflora Quite a few leaves are still thin. I wonder if its some type of deficiency? I've been giving it a little fertilizer every once and a while. Some of the newer leaves are thicker though. The stems are still thin too.

09-29-2011, 03:15 PM	#557 (permalink)
Willow87 Willow87 Willow87's Photo Gallery Location: Plano, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8a Name: Cameron Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,815 BananaBucks : 136,670 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,016 Times Was Thanked 2,524 Times in 1,487 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Passiflora I didn't know that caerulea have to have another plant to pollinate it. Maybe that's why my first caerulea never produced fruit. I was always curious about that. I'm glad you told me that. I really do hope to see flowers next year and I'll keep you updated with pictures.

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