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Old 12-15-2007, 11:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I have seen so-called professional nurserymen sprout Coconuts in Jamaica, Puerto Rico and Florida. They all do it differently. However, you guys are talking about splitting the nut and draining the milk ? Is this a porn group ??

The husk serves a purpose of holding moisture which must be constant. (Nature knows best) Do not alow to dry out between watering. The real secret is to keep the big seed around 80, 90 or 100* f. Below 75*f. it will never sprout. If you use the method I discribed earlier in a nursery pot of sand and Cypress mulch, you could place it in the house where you may have winter central heating. Put it under a table, in a corner, etc. If you are warm, the Coconut will be warm ! Then into the greenhouse in Spring. Do not crack the Coconut. Put the "Monkey face" downward into sand/soil. If the husk is still on it, place the "puckered" end into soil, but first shave off a bit with a saw to expose fiber. Logos
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:37 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Coconuts are seldom kept in cold storage. They are well sealed by Nature and remain viable for a year or two, however . . . the stores do not care if the Coconut is fresh or edable. Most stores stock them 'cause they are a novelty. Choose the largest you see and pick it up and shake it. If you hear no "Milk shake" then it must be old and may not be viable. Logos
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Old 12-16-2007, 12:32 AM   #23 (permalink)
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would being shipped in freezing weather like we have right now in the northern states make then not viable?
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However, you guys are talking about splitting the nut and draining the milk ? Is this a porn group ??

ok of all the things ive heard on this forum.....that was the funniest thing! well ive heard that "bananas really do split..so im not even sure about the "nut thing"! logos when i read that i fell out of my chair. my sides still hurt from laughing. if you dont know how to do it, does it not make sence to ask? ha ha ha ha lol. rotflmao!!!!!!
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I brought two back from my September trip to Florida. One was a fresh green coconut from under a tree on the side of the Overseas Highway. The other I cheated since I bought it already growing.

Currently they are indoors at about 70 degrees. The growing plant is doing so slowly, but is alive and should be OK. The one from the side of the road is just hanging out in a pot with a soil/sand mix, but I don't expect much since its not warm enough. Hopefully at the end of next summer after getting some heat it will sprout!

Last year I tried grocery store coconuts with milk, but no husks. They cracked under the heat of the sun, and rotted!

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If you hear no "Milk shake" then it must be old and may not be viable. Logos
Just to add on to what Logos said, just because it does 'milk shake', that also doesn't mean that it is viable either.

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Old 12-16-2007, 11:56 AM   #27 (permalink)
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ok guys...i caved. im ordering one. however that does not mean that i dont want to try it from seed. just have to find the right, pardon the expression "nut". i dont want it to peal and rot. might have to have my sister send me one up from fl.. well its freezing up here and we are getting snow flurries. there isnt much accumulating. its just really COLD!.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Dear D & T . . . Indiana is very far north, but a sprouted palm should get through OK if the mailman delivers to your door. If its below 32*f. in the daytime it might be best to wait for a warm spell or till March. Logos
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:40 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Joe . . . Winter Sucks !! Thats why I left Florida. Even there we had a freez or two every year. Go to the airport . . you could be in San Juan in three hours. This time of year the whole Island is jumping to Salsa. There is no escaping the constant dancing and music, and . . . its 80*f. coconut weather every day ! What do you do for a living ? Mabe I could help you find a job. #x**#@ Logos



For everyone . . . Has anyone ever heard the Christmas story of the tradition of "The three Kings" ? Any takers ? Logos
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:09 PM   #30 (permalink)
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ok.. ill bite whats up w/ the three kings?
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Every year Home Depot sells coconut with sprouts up to 2 feet. Sometimes, Wallmart also.
But I always shy away buying one because I feel that my location is not conducive for growing coconuts. I felt that it is just a waste of $35 for me.
Oh, I was tempted.
But to me all the goings are against me- 10 years of maintenance, any tempt below 70* F will kill it etc...
And here's an excerpt" The soil should be sandy-loamy and alkaline which is the beach/cayes environment. It is always best in the long run to plant palms where they grow naturally otherwise you will spend a lot of time and money trying to make something thrive in an environment that it does not like."
Unless I have a greenhouse that I can maintain that tempt and a money chamber that runs very deep......
And I still have not seen a coconut with fruit inside a commercial or private greenhouse.
Oh, I have all kinds of varieties of coconuts planted in my yard in the Philippines. The dwarf kinds, the pink-red dwarf that in 4 feet it bears fruit, the tall ones, and coconuts that the shell is nothing but meat no water inside but all white meat.
So I maybe a party looper but that's the fact.
I don't want to discourage you guys but to each its own.
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Old 12-17-2007, 03:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
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If you have the right humidity and the right temperature AND Patience, coconut tree is the easiest tree to grow.
All you need is to put the dried fruit with the husk any place that is sandy, cool and airy and forget about them.
You'll see in due time they will sprout. You don't need to feed it because it has a built-in food system for 4 to 5 months. So I guess that's how nature spread them in 7,000 islands in the Philippines. Dried fruit fell off the water and the sea deposited them in a sandy beach to the next island.
So in the horizon when you see an island at far distant shore, all you see are coconut mangroves. Beautiful scenery.
But without the temperature 75 to 100*F and high humidity , you are going to have problems with them till you give up.
That''s why the only place I know of that coconut thrives only in Miami Florida and vicinity, anything North of it I don't see them grown in their yard.
Even as far South of California as in San Diego, I don't see them grown in parks or yard.
They are sensitive to low temperature.
I maybe wrong but that's my observation.
I've seen other tropicals like guavas, mangoes, bananas, grown way up in Los Angeles but not coconut.
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Logos, maybe one day when the money is right I'll be looking to move to a nice warm climate! For now I have to make do with telling friends in all seriousness, "yes I'm growing mango, pineapple, banana and coconut" here in New Jersey, even though none of them will ever fruit. The same New Jersey which is 20 degrees right now and under thick ice and brutal winds... ughhh!

Right, I'm off to the airport!

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BTW I was able to grow guavas here and fruited.
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mskitty--I have sprouted a few coconuts in my time (back in the Islands) but lawd, wouldnt think of doing it here in the States. Dont know that them trees can stand the cold.
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that is what im a little concerned about. i keep the banana room(thats what i call the den) at 70-75 *f( and its humid in here too), because of the nanas, i just dont think it would be warm enough, even if i set it on a vent, im kind of iffy on getting one and it dying.( i would be scarred for life...) maybe that is just one thing along with the ae ae i will wait on till i move back south. i do however love the look of palms. and here in my neck of the woods palms are not sold often. i lucked out on my majesty palm. there were a lot, but most looked nasty and so bad, i had a choice of very few. so thank yall for your honesty, and not candy coating this discussion.....sniff, sniff, sniff. lol
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Mskitty:
If you like palm tree just like I do, the closest leaves to a coconut that I know of is the Queen Palm. That I have 2 growing in my front yard on the ground.
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i will have to check out my favorite nursery and see if he has some. the last time i was at the nursery i didnt get past the first gh. so thanks on the advise for the queen palm.
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the pygmy date palm sort of has that coconut palm look and does well in containers. I've wanted to try them for a while now and would definately try them in z6-7 since they can be brought in easily.


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those are awsome. thank you, ill have to check into those.
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