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Boy you sure can tell its not summer no more.... Growing fruit isn't comparable to growing tomato's especially Tomato's to Banana's as much as you'd like to, doesn't make much sense.. :^)
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you are right I don't know much about bananas first time actually but its common sense if you use rock dust,mykos,azos,cal carb, and not just micro elements but all trace minerals and compounded nitrates your going to yelled better fruit no matter what. if its a banana or if its tomato's the best gardener puts everything in its soil. they don't just look at the NPK ratio and calls it good lol that's silly talk in science!
ps: there's just no analysis so he's spent 3 years and doesn't know how much this improves the brick score? |
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new fertilizer company's cant get their hands on certain chemicals jisa can miracle grow can and other really old company's and that's why they are still in business with leading brands they try to shut down companys like this and because they are old its old guys get first serve so they purchase all they can get.
and if you can just show all of us the brick count and the difference it gives from your fertilizer and normal application then I wont bother your product....I promise you can put your product on your bananas all you want but until you get an analysis you really don't know how beneficial your product really is. |
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you can get any fruit analyzed by most colleges and they sometimes even do it for free!
like here in Idaho they even do free soil test for you. |
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brix/brick same thing
just get the stuff analyzed and post the report. I know I am being rude about this discussion I apologize but if you have proof of what you have (trial formulations, and testing) primarily the testing then people like me that want to purchase stuff over the market/internet wont think this is a scam. because in all reality I can be on this site for 7 years and found a huge sale on fertilizer and buy it all up and then just say hey guys I made this awesome stuff ill sell to you cheap and its the best stuff you can get........that's my perspective on it |
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They going to get an soil analysis done.. :^) |
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It is true that fertilizers with this N-P-K (16-8-24) and the complimentary ratio 2:1:3 are in existence -- and for good reason. Certainly my supplier already makes the formula you listed above. But it did not go far enough. Quote:
I spent 3 decades as a scientist in both the public and private sector and in the evenings taught at 5 universities over the same time span. I have published many papers in my career, both as a primary and joint author. After 9-11 when my employer's clients were killed in the world trade center, I spent a few years trying various vocations and then started my present business. For this project, I hired 3 PhDs from major agricultural universities, consulted another dozen, paid for trial formulations and lab tests. I think we got it right. :08: |
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This is a positive, respectful, good board. I don't want to see it dragged down by that garbage. |
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AMEN ! ! ! ! ! our Daisy here needs to unplug her keyboard if uneducated negativity is the only thing on her mind! ;)
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so I will never see those reports huh? okay enjoy buying some placebo fertilizers! I wasn't trying to be rude im trying to help get scams off the web boy.
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I have to agree with Green Fin. Please be more respectful whatever you post.
On a different note: I have checked Professor Griffith biography and publications. Impressive, but I am not sure that he is a key expert on a topic like this. However, I have send him an Email with an invitation to join the discussion on this forum. Sometimes it just seems better to hear it "straight from the horses mouth" than from someone who has not finished his/her studies yet. And just my two cents: I am by far no master gardener, but I do try to educate myself as much as I can with some good results. IMO, the best gardeners DO NOT put just everything and anything in the soil, because certain fertilizer and pesticides will harm myself and the environment. Gardening is fun, but I seriously do not care if I have 2 more fruits than my neighbor or the monster "Fair" winning tomato. Thanks for all you are doing, Richard and Happy Thanksgiving to you, too. You are making a lot more sense then someone trying to make (no) point by using rude comments. |
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Keep up the good work my friend......My dad always taught me, there's one in every crowd... |
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Just as an FYI. Fertilizer is reported as oxides for several nutrients. So even though the label says K2O and P2O5, Richard was probably using fertilizers like diammonium phosphate and potassium nitrate as the actual sources o f P and K. All I will say otherwise is please do not put that phosphorus out in Florida on bananas.
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Let me get a bag when it is available and test it on some of MY OWN plants.
If the results are better then anything else I try, and it is safe to use, I could care less about this argument. Actual results trump theory. |
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I use whatever I have laying around
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1 ton of fertilizer (this stuff 16-8-24) is about 500-700bucks per ton
1 ton = 2200 pounds divide that up in 25 pound bags that 88 bags lets say I want to sell my 25 pound bags dirt cheap lets say 15 bucks 15 X 88 = 1320 - (500-700) bucks from that 620-820 profit and that's with me selling 25pound bags. the profit on 5 pound bags is ridiculous! my main variable was the price at (15 bucks per 25 pound bag)!! so in reality if his bags cost more his profit on this is really high. and you have all been buying this for how long? if i'm spending this much on fertilizer I better get some pixie dust included when he tells you the price on his bags do this ( PRICE x 88= ? - (500-700) = his profit ) sorry if I made all of you rage on thanksgiving lol goble goble goble. and saying that he has (several tons) just shows that he bought in BULK so he got even more of a discount. and if he's gonna say he had to buy the materials (500-700$ per ton) at a much higher price. don't be fooled....if he's been a scientist for 30 years and worked in universities like he claims to be then he can get this dirt cheap! :2740: :2740: :2740: |
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