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Is it unusual that my indoor container Highgate always has only 4 leaves? Each new leaf is larger than the last, but it perpetually maintains a total of 4.

As the oldest leaf starts to die off, a fifth shoot appears but doesn't open until the oldest leaf is dead.




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Old 04-06-2021, 06:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is it unusual that my indoor container Highgate always has only 4 leaves? Each new leaf is larger than the last, but it perpetually maintains a total of 4.

As the oldest leaf starts to die off, a fifth shoot appears but doesn't open until the oldest leaf is dead.



The plant can have as many leaves that it wants to sustain its growth for the area/enviroment that it is in....
Your plant will leaf out depending what the environment is giving it.
The plant is pretty much doing what a plant does......environmental factors drive growth.
Your plant is doing what plants do....

Provide credible information on the leaf growth for this plant??
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Any guesses as to what might be causing this behavior?
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Is it unusual that my indoor container Highgate always has only 4 leaves? Each new leaf is larger than the last, but it perpetually maintains a total of 4.

As the oldest leaf starts to die off, a fifth shoot appears but doesn't open until the oldest leaf is dead.



Looks like you have a fantastic grow setup there, I am jealous.
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Thanks, but I wish the banana agreed with you. It's been in the 4-leaf mode since I got it. Spring, summer, winter.

I don't think it's the lucky kind of 4 leaf. It's on its 3rd repotting in a good cactus mix of pumice, charcoal, perlite, compost, peat moss, and sand.
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I am no banana expert so I probably won't be much help, but a few questions I can of think are:

What size pot is it in or what size pots have you tried, do you add fertilizer and if so how much/often, is it in the greenhouse during the warm season and if so how hot does it get and what is the humidity level, have you tried other bananas in the same situation, have you had success with other bananas in that soil mix and if not have you tried a different mix, how often do you irrigate it in the different seasons?
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At the moment it is in a 7 gallon pot, and the pseudo stem is 3 feet. It looks taller because it is propped up on the 30 gallon pot that I hope it will grow into.

Before that it was in a 3 gallon pot, and before that a 1 qt. pot.

I add a combination of miracle grow and seaweed juice every other watering. Watering happens whenever it is dry more than an inch down. This can range from 36 hours in the summer to every 2 weeks in the winter, It stays in the greenhouse year round. In the winter it is maintained at around 70 degrees, except Jan/Feb when I let it go down to 65. There is powered ventilation, so it doesn't usually go above 85 in the summer. The humidity is not controlled, so it is whatever the ambient is during the summer, and anywhere from 40 to 60 in the winter depending on whether I have watered the plants recently.

I have never grown a banana before, so I can't compare different mixes. BTW, there is also some hardwood ashes in the mix.

The DLI in the winter is around 9-10 Mols in the winter and around 40-50 in the summer.
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At the moment it is in a 7 gallon pot, and the pseudo stem is 3 feet. It looks taller because it is propped up on the 30 gallon pot that I hope it will grow into.

Before that it was in a 3 gallon pot, and before that a 1 qt. pot.

I add a combination of miracle grow and seaweed juice every other watering. Watering happens whenever it is dry more than an inch down. This can range from 36 hours in the summer to every 2 weeks in the winter, It stays in the greenhouse year round. In the winter it is maintained at around 70 degrees, except Jan/Feb when I let it go down to 65. There is powered ventilation, so it doesn't usually go above 85 in the summer. The humidity is not controlled, so it is whatever the ambient is during the summer, and anywhere from 40 to 60 in the winter depending on whether I have watered the plants recently.

I have never grown a banana before, so I can't compare different mixes. BTW, there is also some hardwood ashes in the mix.

The DLI in the winter is around 9-10 Mols in the winter and around 40-50 in the summer.
You plant will do what it wishes....
Disregard most everything you have read.....about small plant leaf production.
Growing a small plant in a hothouse with supplemental led lighting changes many factors.
You have no issues,
Do not fret......your plant is so small it will do what it wishes.

Wait till it gets 6 feet tall and three leaves......
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Default Re: Highgate always has 4 leaves

My wife and I are beekeepers (OK, my wife is the beekeeper, I m the grunt) and one thing we always highly recommend to new beekeepers is to start with at least 2 colonies, for comparison, backup, experimentation, etc.

I usually apply that to other endeavors as well and would suggest considering acquiring another banana for comparative purposes - it may help to shed some light on the situation - besides, the more bananas the better
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