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Old 03-08-2012, 01:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've had a lot of bananas fruiting lately, here are two of them.

'Highgate', a dwarf Gros Michel, fruting at just about 11 months after planting. It is shorter than 'Cocos', but the fruit is also smaller. Pseudostem height on this is about 7ft.





This is 'Cocos', a different cultivar of dwarf Gros Michel, the fruit is larger than 'Highgate' and the plants a little taller for the first round of fruiting, but if you really juice them they will get taller with age. Currently they are fruiting at about 7-8ft right now.



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Very cool! How are these dwarfs with BBTV? I've learned to manage it with Brazilians ... but gave up on others.
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I working on putting them to the test on a larger scale, but so far, no BBTV after about 3 years of growing with infected plants around.
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Looking good, Gabe!

Is 11 months after planting typical, or was there something that affected the plant to bloom time?

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Is 11 months after planting typical, or was there something that affected the plant to bloom time?
It is typical given that the plants are in full sun, are adequately watered, and have enough nutrients.
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'Highgate', a dwarf Gros Michel, fruiting at just about 11 months after planting.
How big was it when it was planted? (big pup or young tc?)
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It is typical given that the plants are in full sun, are adequately watered, and have enough nutrients.
And a great big green thumb watching them. Thanks
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Great photos! Thanks for sharing!
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I have a Gros Michel, but wasn't told if it's a standard giant size or cocos or highgate. I assume it's standard, but are there any differences to look for between the three Thanks.
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I have a Gros Michel, but wasn't told if it's a standard giant size or cocos or highgate. I assume it's standard, but are there any differences to look for between the three Thanks.
'Highgate' has a very noticeable dwarfed stature, it's a relatively thick and stout plant.

'Cocos' is more slender and less dwarf looking, and can look very similar to the tall 'Gros Michel' for a time when young, but it will eventually start to look more proportional and top out in height when shorter as opposed to the tall which get very tall, and will not look dwarf at all and not really top out until near 15-20ft.

I would assume you have a standard tall 'Gros Michel' as they are the most common and quite abundant. Where did you get it from?
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Hello, is there any diference between the taste ( flavor) of the Bananas ? Or do they all taste the same ? thank you.
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Gabe, thank you. I will keep my eye on it. I got it from Amazon, and SDDarkman said he is the only seller of GM on there, so I assume it was him. I have asked but not heard back yet. It is about 4 feet tall now. Please take a look to see if you can tell... (So you know, I overfed this with K a few months ago and it is just recently starting to grow normal again. It's growth nearly stopped for about July...)





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What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

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Looks like the normal tall to me so far.
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I would prefer the Cocos simply for faster fruiting and less worries over the wind. Anybody have one? I can trade a Dwarf red or a huge Namwah corm.
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All things being equal, the dwarfs don't really fruit faster, they just don't add as much height with each new leaf, but are more or less equal in time. They are less prone to wind damage, but since they all have fairly large bunches staking is advised for all of them.
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I thought I would resurrect this old thread. Now that Highgate is available as tissue culture, who has tasted it? Gabe since you have tasted Gros Michel, Coco's and Highgate do they taste the same? Does one taste better? Thanks, for any info.

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I just ordered a 'Highgate' and am looking forward to getting it in the ground and growing. Wish I'd ordered earlier in the spring but as I'm in the Houston, TX area, it should have plenty of time to get established before winter arrives.
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I grow higate. It was slow to start but after about 4 feet it took off. I have my 1st flower and will post pics soon in the thread whats blooming.

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Hi Darla, is you Highgate from tissue culture? At what height did it flower? I'm very excited about this variety. My plants are only about 18" tall.

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Hi Darla, is you Highgate from tissue culture? At what height did it flower? I'm very excited about this variety. My plants are only about 18" tall.

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My fruiting height is 7f, just posted pics in whats flowering! i acquired this variety as a small corn, i put it in a pot as usually do until i feel its strong enough to go in the ground. It was planted last spring. with not much growth. this spring it took off like a rocket and now late in the growing season i have my 1st flower. Dont know if i will get a chance to do a taste test, winter will play a big part in it.

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