OK>>>> Seeds are ready on the velutina!!! - Page 10

Dean W. · 03-22-2008, 10:27 AM

Boy, I must be doing something wrong! I'm going to give it another go.

Dean

AllenF · 03-22-2008, 11:37 AM

I am so happy about the velutina. I planted some Violeacia(sp) seeds in January and they germinated at the same time, but they are not that important.

I checked before we went to Vegas and nothing had germinated. Over the next week and a half the light and heat were applied as follows: 5 days low light no heat (20*C/70*F), 2 days 16 hrs 30*C/85*F and 8 hrs 20*C and 3 days low light no heat.

I am going to try that again and see if it works.

Allen

xavierdlc61887 · 04-03-2008, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xavierdlc61887

Ok sorry for the delay randy, i put

10 in direrct potting soil next to the water heater
10 in direct potting soil and inside a Baggie inside the fridge
10 in a baggie with a coffe filter next to my computer under a lamp
72 in direct potting soil outside under a tree getting water every other day when the soil is looking dry

Will post the different results i get

and thanks for the seeds randy im sure they will all germ

lol it took 5 months for the 72 plug tray to show signs of life and only those the rest have molded up and died but these troopers stood there ground and lived

wow i forgot about them until today when i was cleaning all the dead plants and what didnt take and found these babies.....randy like i promised the is an update but very late in the game :P um hope some more come out and germ but here is the pic i promised 5 months ago :P method i used was leave outside and let them germ on there own :P

jpfloors · 04-03-2008, 05:59 PM

Congrads Fernie, GL getting the rest to germ. I have mine in a germ station and they have germinated after only two weeks!!! These seeds came from a different source though.

xavierdlc61887 · 04-03-2008, 06:08 PM

pictures????

jpfloors · 04-04-2008, 10:38 AM

Here ya go!!!

AllenF · 04-18-2008, 07:20 PM

HELP
I have had 4 seeds germinate and I have transplanted them. The second one got black tips on its first leaf and died. Now the fourth one is doing the same and the tips on the first plants 2 leaves are turning black.

There are pics in my member gallery.

I thought that it was because of over watering when seedling #2 died. But #4 is dying without being over watered and #1 is starting to develop black on the tips of it's leaves.

Can anyone tell me what the problem is. I don't want the other two to die as well.

Allen

xavierdlc61887 · 04-18-2008, 08:25 PM

u should have left them where they were until they got atleast 4 leaves and was more hardened

i killed one like that by transplanting

ummm all i can say is hard lesson learned right there but its all bout the learning process u learn as u go

D_&_T · 04-18-2008, 08:31 PM

Have you seen any of those darn GNATS flying around, we lost several to them!
We now use water with some Mosquito Dunk mixed in.

xavierdlc61887 · 04-18-2008, 08:34 PM

D % T ummmmm thats a problem u have to much moisture and not enought ventilation...bummer

D_&_T · 04-18-2008, 09:16 PM

Most of the time they were dry to barely damp, only watered when leaves started to droop. We use ceiling fan to move air around the room. Seemed drier plants were more gnats had till started using Dunk.

AllenF · 04-18-2008, 09:31 PM

Thanks. I will leave them longer before transplanting.

I have 1 or 2 gnats but not enough to worry about yet.

Allen

D_&_T · 04-18-2008, 09:35 PM

Its their larvae that does the damage to the roots, them eat young roots or seeds.

AllenF · 04-19-2008, 09:49 AM

Thanks D & T. I guess that 1 is enough to start trying to control them.

Allen

bigdog · 04-19-2008, 10:51 AM

I honestly don't think that it makes a difference when you remove them from the germinating mix. I've removed them as soon as they pop up, and they do just fine. I've never once left one in to grow four leaves first.

Allen, sorry to see your problems! I would separate the one that isn't showing any problems from the others. It could be a soil-borne pathogen causing rot. If you have a fungicide, mix up a little of it in a spray bottle and lightly spray the plants with it. Water the ones you have potted up with it also at your next watering. Was your germinating mix sterile? That will make a huge difference. Also, it looks like you've potted them up into a mix with fertilizer in it. That may be causing the tip burn. They are still a bit young to start fertilizing. Good luck with them!!

Dean W. · 04-19-2008, 03:03 PM

You all are lucky! I have had nothing yet!

Dean

AllenF · 04-19-2008, 05:08 PM

The germinating mix was sterile. So was the mix for the 2 survivors. The mix for the dying one was used for germination of other seed and had been out of the bag for about 3 months. I am going to have to be more careful about what I use for seed starter and make sure that it is fertilizer free.

Dean you have my sympathies. I tried germinating Velutina last year. Nothing. Even through the summer. The main thing that I have done this year has been to go to xmas lights for heat instead of a mat(it died). I also have been more erratic in the application of light and heat sometimes forgetting to turn on the lights for several days. Check the moisture. Don't give up. I hope that you don't have to wait as long as I have waited to get some to germinate.

Allen

7abZoner · 04-30-2008, 12:24 PM

Here's a couple of pictures of the one seed I managed to sprout and its progress. It is doing quite well, hopefully I can get some pups off of it after this summer.

Here it is after first sprouting in december...

and here it is 3 months later, it is really starting to grow now, each new leaf is getting noticably larger than the previous and they are comming faster now.

Just waiting on the warm weather to get here to put it out in the garden.

Thanks again Randy!

Dean W. · 04-30-2008, 02:09 PM

Looking good! Thanks for sharing the picture.

Dean

Dean W. · 05-02-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean W.

Randy,

I'm still waiting. They haven't done anything, yet. I guess I need to try a different method. Maybe, I can use potting soil instead of perlite or vermiculite.

Dean

Finally, I got a sprout. The ones I planted in potting soil I put outside in the sun and kept watered. Today I noticed one comining up. Hopefully there will be more to come.

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