I Want A True Blue Java

Brandon1971 · 07-04-2014, 07:56 PM

I am looking for a true blue java / ice cream banana plant.

2woodensticks · 07-04-2014, 08:13 PM

mine are blooming now..i ordered a few TC from florida hills nursery 2 years ago..

crazy banana · 07-04-2014, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 2woodensticks

mine are blooming now..i ordered a few TC from florida hills nursery 2 years ago..

He wants the TRUE Blue Java.

TC AND Florida Hill nursery, ummm.....?! = too good to be true.

austinl01 · 07-04-2014, 09:37 PM

Don't they taste terrible?

crazy banana · 07-04-2014, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by austinl01

Don't they taste terrible?

I have had some really good ones, but also some that were so-so.
The so-so ones were harvested too early, were not filled in enough, because I was expecting a frosty night.
Right now I am looking forward to a nice looking bunch, but no signs of yellow yet. They are hanging since September (!).
Basically it is missing consistency so far in my experience.

austinl01 · 07-04-2014, 10:34 PM

So they take a long time to develop and ripen, huh?

crazy banana · 07-04-2014, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by austinl01

So they take a long time to develop and ripen, huh?

Well, not living in the tropics, what do you expect from a September inflorescence?
I have another bunch that showed its first hand about two weeks ago. Hopefully that will take less time to fill in and ripen before the winter hits.

Brandon1971 · 07-05-2014, 06:02 AM

I am looking for a TRUE ice cream/blue java, not the tissue cultured ones here in Florida that really a tall namwa by mistake.

Brandon1971 · 07-05-2014, 06:15 AM

A mixup by agri-starts FL that needs to be corrected. Ice cream is really a tall namwa. I am wondering if California has the right tissue cultured blue java/ice cream or if they get theirs from Florida area.

crazy banana · 07-05-2014, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon1971

A mixup by agri-starts FL that needs to be corrected. Ice cream is really a tall namwa. I am wondering if California has the right tissue cultured blue java/ice cream or if they get theirs from Florida area.

Pretty much all TC come from Agristarts, no matter where you are located in the USA. If you use the search engine here on the org, we have had some discussions about it here in the forum. I had offered them the real one.

Bob3 · 07-05-2014, 05:26 PM

The term "Ice Cream" banana is practically useless, because it has been used to name at least 2 different cultivars.
Also, somewhere on the web, "Ice Cream" has been referred to as being the best flavored & textured banana around, a sentiment not universally agreed with.

I stopped using the term "Ice Cream" in reference to bananas a couple-few years ago because it basically lost its meaning.

... and yes, we do have Blue Javas in CA, but I ain't going to call anything "Ice Cream" unless describing a dairy product.

Aside from that, I like Blue Javas but they're not nearly as cold tolerant or flexible in use as my "not so dwarf" Orinocos.

My buddy, on the other hand, prefers his Blue Java over Orinoco.

... but then I really like tostones!

crazy banana · 07-05-2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob3

The term "Ice Cream" banana is practically useless, because it has been used to name at least 2 different cultivars.
Also, somewhere on the web, "Ice Cream" has been referred to as being the best flavored & textured banana around, a sentiment not universally agreed with.

I stopped using the term "Ice Cream" in reference to bananas a couple-few years ago because it basically lost its meaning.

... and yes, we do have Blue Javas in CA, but I ain't going to call anything "Ice Cream" unless describing a dairy product.

Aside from that, I like Blue Javas but they're not nearly as cold tolerant or flexible in use as my "not so dwarf" Orinocos.

My buddy, on the other hand, prefers his Blue Java over Orinoco.

... but then I really like tostones!

I cannot comment on the cold hardiness as we only had two hours of early morning frost this last winter, but I have tasted Orinoco. Even though my BJ/IC were inconsistent and not necessarily a Vanilla Ice Cream flavor, I would always prefer them over any Orinoco I have tasted so far.

Brandon1971 · 07-05-2014, 07:19 PM

I purchased one.

Rmplmnz · 07-05-2014, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon1971

I am looking for a true blue java / ice cream banana plant.

Hello,

Do you know servatusprime (Adam)?

He is planning on coming to Tampa soon to pick up some corms. PM Adam and hopefully he can pick up a few corms (Ice Cream, Pitogo, maybe 3640, Pisang Jari Buri, etc.,) for you as well.

Chris

Blue Java - the Real Deal!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54SPpw2aHhM

Rmplmnz · 07-05-2014, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon1971

I am looking for a true blue java / ice cream banana plant.

Do you have Red Iholene?

Jose263 · 07-06-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 2woodensticks

mine are blooming now..i ordered a few TC from florida hills nursery 2 years ago..

Got any pics? are they really blue?

Brandon1971 · 07-06-2014, 04:07 AM

I do have red iholene.

jeffaroo · 07-07-2014, 11:23 PM

So if I have a "Ice Cream" that I bought at Lowes. What variety should I be looking at? This thing is 3 years old and only 2-3 foot tall. Its a very slow grower, but very healthy. Last year it didn't grow much at all , and this year it was the last one to wake up. Almost gave up on it

crazy banana · 07-08-2014, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffaroo

So if I have a "Ice Cream" that I bought at Lowes. What variety should I be looking at? This thing is 3 years old and only 2-3 foot tall. Its a very slow grower, but very healthy. Last year it didn't grow much at all , and this year it was the last one to wake up. Almost gave up on it

Anything but the real "Blue Java/IceCream"

Before I joined this forum, I had purchased one at Lowes which originated from "La Verne" nursery. That one was definitely not a Blue Java: fruit, inflorescence and p-stem look like Namwah to me. Very different to my real Blue Java I am growing now.
I assume that yours might be a Namwah.

Jose263 · 07-08-2014, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffaroo

So if I have a "Ice Cream" that I bought at Lowes. What variety should I be looking at? This thing is 3 years old and only 2-3 foot tall. Its a very slow grower, but very healthy. Last year it didn't grow much at all , and this year it was the last one to wake up. Almost gave up on it

got any pics - slow grower? doesn't sound like a namwa? but lots of nanas are mislabed...

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