Sweetheart (FHIA -3) banana - Page 2

Richard · 11-29-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

Richard, according to the official FHIA key, FHIA 3 is the only FHIA banana with a pseudostem that is "bright light green, no blotches or very few". The red on the pseudostem of the one in your old photo seems to suggest it is not the real deal, but I've been amazed at how much red/pink some cultivars can get in the pseudostem and petioles under certain conditions.

Thanks Dan, everything about this plant seems to contradict what I've read about Sweetheart.

Clare_CA · 11-29-2011, 05:12 PM

Thanks for that info. That's good to know. Maybe it would just be a good banana for smoothies then. I've been growing it for more than a year now so I might as well let it fruit and see. I'll be yanking it though if the fruit is less than desireable. It seems to be a very slow pupper.

Richard · 11-29-2011, 06:08 PM

Ok, so I'm still wondering what I have!!!

Clare_CA · 11-29-2011, 07:00 PM

Well, what cultivars have white powdery undersides of the leaves and a red trunk like that? Mark?

Did you put it in the I.D. forum for Gabe?

bananimal · 11-29-2011, 08:20 PM

My understanding of the FHIA goal was to develope naners that could grow well in areas of the word devastated by plant diseases. I am amazed how well FHIA-1, the Goldfinger, does in my same crappy soil as others that don't. Great taste and performance. Year after year.

Maybe other countries/cultures cook Sweetheart instead of out of hand raw?!

Richard · 11-29-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bananimal

My understanding of the FHIA goal was to develope naners that could grow well in areas of the word devastated by plant diseases.

And stand up to seasonal hurricanes.

venturabananas · 11-30-2011, 03:06 AM

FHIA 3 was intended to be a cooking banana.

http://www.fhia.org.hn/dowloads/info...dos/fhia03.pdf

bananimal · 11-30-2011, 07:05 PM

I don't believe that I have never checked out the FHIA website before. Just stuff others have written about them. Great stuff!

So go ahead and cook them Sweethearts folks. Any tetraploid is worth growing just to avoid disease issues.

Clare_CA · 12-01-2011, 01:24 PM

That is a good website. Maybe I don't have a Sweetheart. Mine does not have a dark stem as it says in the description.

Clare_CA · 12-07-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Sweetheart ... or not Sweetheart ... that is the question !!!

The first generation of the famous "crackpot" plant discussed 2 years ago did not produce much fruit. However, a pup from the corm grew into a very dense, stout plant with an 11-inch diameter base, 6-inch vertical spacing between leaf petitoles, and a 6-foot high pstem that threw out a large bud of about 120 fingers.

So is it really Sweetheart ... I have some doubts. Here are some photos of leaf front/back, female flowers, and male flowers:

I think it's possible yours could be the same plant as my Raja Puri. My Raja Puri has white powder on the underside of the leaves, and the fruit stalk pattern looks about the same. The only different that I can see from the pictures is that my fruit is slightly smaller. My Raja Puri has beautiful dark green leaves and pups like crazy. I just spent spend a good part of yesterday thinning my mat and noticed the white powder and thought of yours.

Richard · 12-07-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Clare_CA

I think it's possible yours could be the same plant as my Raja Puri. My Raja Puri has white powder on the underside of the leaves ...

Thanks, although whitish underside on my plant is not a powder or anything that rubs off.

sunfish · 12-07-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Thanks, although whitish underside on my plant is not a powder or anything that rubs off.

Ricard I got a pup from you it is different then Dwarf Cavendish and RP

Richard · 12-07-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

Ricard I got a pup from you it is different then Dwarf Cavendish and RP

I would agree with Gabe that my mislabeled banana has Cavendish genetics, but I also agree with you Tony that it has some different features than D.C.

If the original source got FHIA-3 confused with FHIA-2, then it would be Mona Lisa. Looking at the pictures posted by Gabe, I would say its a good match:

Could this be Mona Lisa

Clare_CA · 12-07-2011, 08:54 PM

It looks like the Mona Lisa has little red male flowers whereas yours are white, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to identification so I'll leave it to the experts here.

Richard · 12-07-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Clare_CA

It looks like the Mona Lisa has little red male flowers whereas yours are white, but I'm pretty clueless when it comes to identification so I'll leave it to the experts here.

Well, I'm more clueless than you!

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