Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! - Page 3

sunfish · 09-13-2013, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dripsta23

I am currently growing a blue java for first time have not tasted yet. I think what bananimal means by hype is that the wiki states that the blue java is rated best tasting by many people Musa Ice Cream (Blue Java - Bananas Wiki) . some people in banana community I think reject the blue java due to the fact that its color is blue and not yellow like a banana should be.

The color is yellow when ripe.

sunfish · 09-13-2013, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robguz24

And it seems that "best testing" and "tastes like ice cream" comments seem to make it into descriptions of them on sites and ebay listings selling them.

I was sure I already had an extensive taste report on here, but then remembered the last time I had some, they were so yucky I couldn't even bring myself to have 2 and write a report.

You mentioned many times that they are yucky

Musa Blue Java From Florida Hill Nursery, Real?

How long does it take for Blue Java fruit to ripen?

bananimal · 09-14-2013, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a top quality cooking banana.

Still have about 2 doz left on the stalk. Will try frying a couple and see. The texture is so mushy/fluffy that it may fall apart.

Bottom line ---- I'll never grow this thing!!!!

Julian · 09-14-2013, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a top quality cooking banana.

They are terrible cooked.

bananimal · 09-14-2013, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian

They are terrible cooked.

That's what I'm thinking too. lol

PR-Giants · 09-14-2013, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian

They are terrible cooked.

You're probably right, A cooking banana that tastes terrible cooked, but it does taste pretty good ripe.

Julian · 09-14-2013, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

You're probably right, A cooking banana that tastes terrible cooked, but it does taste pretty good ripe.

http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/UHMG/dow...nanas_ADSC.pdf

What they say about cooking it...

"Both the immature and mature stage can be used for cooking, but they develop an astringency after cooking."

robguz24 · 09-15-2013, 02:36 AM

In case anyone is wondering, I think they're yucky cooked. I've never actually had them cooked, but I'm pretty sure they're yucky. Please search my previous posts for my comments on how yucky they are.

PR-Giants · 09-15-2013, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian

http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/UHMG/dow...nanas_ADSC.pdf

What they say about cooking it...

"Both the immature and mature stage can be used for cooking, but they develop an astringency after cooking."

Here's both sentences....

"Both the immature and mature stage can be used for cooking, but they develop an
astringency after cooking. When fully ripened and soft, the flesh turns fluffy and sweet,
hence the name Ice Cream."

For whatever the reason Hawaii seems to have more of an astringency problem than other regions.

If they develop an astringency after cooking, maybe it was because of the way it was cooked.

The Blue Java is grown and sold in markets in many countries,
so common sense would dictate there's probably a good reason.

Hana Farms grows and sells them at their market in Maui. They also use them
in their banana breads, hot sauces and butters. 808-248-7553

trebor · 09-15-2013, 09:08 AM

OMG.. Its blue, Its yellow, its fluffy, its fried, its best ripe, its from Hawaii… Someone once told me they were like eating cotton balls soaked in banana butter!
So this morning I am frying me some da-gum Orinco’s !
No disrespect meant to the author of this thread.. Because if it weren’t for his perseverance and professionalism I would be African Rhino Hornless.
Now that we establish I got a attitude today let me put in my 02 about Ice Cream .. They just taste OK to me . No big deal “to me” …
Im being truthful... I would rather have a plantain to eat and grow

Im not a hater.. dont hate me for eating orinco's


bananimal · 09-15-2013, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trebor

OMG.. Its blue, Its yellow, its fluffy, its fried, its best ripe, its from Hawaii… Someone once told me they were like eating cotton balls soaked in banana butter!

No disrespect meant to the author of this thread.. Because if it weren’t for his perseverance and professionalism I would be African Rhino Hornless.

Make that African Rhino Hornless and Brown Turkey Figgless! lol

trebor · 09-15-2013, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananimal

Make that African Rhino Hornless and Brown Turkey Figgless! lol

OH..Thats rite I'd forgot about my monster fig tree ya sent. I fell over when I was pulling and pulling and pulling it out of the box. I was laughing . I kept saying ."Geeze how did he get all that tree in this box?" And just like you said as soon as it saw the sun it unbent and looked like its always lived in my yard.. my neighbour saw it and went bonkers.. Now I'm a cool dude..ha ha and you know I put the Azomite to it...

Julian · 09-15-2013, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Here's both sentences....
The Blue Java is grown and sold in markets in many countries,
so common sense would dictate there's probably a good reason.

Hana Farms grows and sells them at their market in Maui. They also use them
in their banana breads, hot sauces and butters. 808-248-7553

I have family in Hana and I go there. They use Williams and Apple banana in their breads and sauces. Not Ice Cream. They will tell you that Ice Cream does not taste good in banana bread. Common sense not to make things up. They sell some fresh Ice cream banana as a novelty fruit. Trust me, they suck.

PR-Giants · 09-16-2013, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian

Common sense not to make things up.

Read their website, it's seems they tell you one thing and the rest of the world something else.

Julian · 09-16-2013, 12:04 PM

Call them and ask. I did.

Rmplmnz · 09-17-2013, 08:32 PM

I think they taste fine..super sweet..but hey a nice contrast. My 18 month old toddlers luv them in their cereal.

I like having a thread dedicated to one species!

My personal favorite bananas are:

Fehi (Fei)
Hua Moa
Ele Ele
Saba

But hey everyone has different preferences.

Julian · 09-18-2013, 11:54 AM

Very interesting list of favorites. I like saba as well.

caliboy1994 · 09-23-2013, 11:53 PM

The real deal growing in Santa Clara, CA. Originally obtained from Encanto Farms Nursery. I'm thinking about trying out tissue culturing and putting this one along with a few others into TC.

A nice fat pup. Probably going to take this one home to SoCal.

This is how it looked in Spring right after planting:

Hopefully I'll get a flower bud next year! Any idea how cold hardy it is? Could it survive a 9B winter with prolonged cold and periodic light frosts? I'd think it's pretty tough because it's in the ABB subgroup.

crazy banana · 09-24-2013, 12:42 AM

[quote=caliboy1994;229627]The real deal growing in Santa Clara, CA. Originally obtained from Encanto Farms Nursery. I'm thinking about trying out tissue culturing and putting this one along with a few others into TC.

A nice fat pup. Probably going to take this one home to SoCal.

Caliboy: the Blue Java pups like crazy, so why bother to TC?
They are somewhat cold hardy. Temps went down to 28 F for a couple early morning hours last winter at my house for several days. All the leaves died, but P-stems and corm where just fine. As of today I have two BJ with fruits hanging and a third one with a flag leaf. Planted the mother plant in May 2012, fruiting pups are from July and August 2012. I guess that is not too bad for a beginner. Hope your plants will produce soon.

caliboy1994 · 09-24-2013, 01:15 AM

Thanks. Looks like it shouldn't be a problem here. It shouldn't get below 27 if we have a normal winter here. If we have a cold one I wouldn't expect lower than 25 or so. I'll keep an eye on the weather forecast November through March.

09-15-2013, 02:36 AM	#48 (permalink)
robguz24 Rob Location: Kalapana, Hawaii Find me on the map! Zone: 11 Name: Rob Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,506 BananaBucks : 285,965 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,320 Times Was Thanked 4,961 Times in 1,080 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 204 Times	Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! In case anyone is wondering, I think they're yucky cooked. I've never actually had them cooked, but I'm pretty sure they're yucky. Please search my previous posts for my comments on how yucky they are. __________________ My micro-farm Stay on my Big Island banana farm cottage

09-15-2013, 09:08 AM	#50 (permalink)
trebor trebor's Photo Gallery Location: Florida Find me on the map! Zone: POMPANO BEACH, FL Zone 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 759 BananaBucks : 123,108 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 845 Times Was Thanked 1,329 Times in 483 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 256 Times	Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! OMG.. Its blue, Its yellow, its fluffy, its fried, its best ripe, its from Hawaii… Someone once told me they were like eating cotton balls soaked in banana butter! So this morning I am frying me some da-gum Orinco’s ! No disrespect meant to the author of this thread.. Because if it weren’t for his perseverance and professionalism I would be African Rhino Hornless. Now that we establish I got a attitude today let me put in my 02 about Ice Cream .. They just taste OK to me . No big deal “to me” … Im being truthful... I would rather have a plantain to eat and grow Im not a hater.. dont hate me for eating orinco's  __________________ If ya can't eat it, it ain't growing in my back yard !

09-16-2013, 12:04 PM	#55 (permalink)
Julian Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 323 BananaBucks : 81,492 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 183 Times Was Thanked 318 Times in 143 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 5 Times	Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! Call them and ask. I did.

09-17-2013, 08:32 PM	#56 (permalink)
Rmplmnz Banana Patch Attendent Rmplmnz's Photo Gallery Location: Tampa, FL Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Rmplmnz Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,448 BananaBucks : 141,849 Feedback: 40 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,249 Times Was Thanked 2,348 Times in 636 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 36 Times	Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! I think they taste fine..super sweet..but hey a nice contrast. My 18 month old toddlers luv them in their cereal. I like having a thread dedicated to one species! My personal favorite bananas are: Fehi (Fei) Hua Moa Ele Ele Saba But hey everyone has different preferences. Last edited by Rmplmnz : 09-18-2013 at 09:45 AM.

09-18-2013, 11:54 AM	#57 (permalink)
Julian Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 323 BananaBucks : 81,492 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 183 Times Was Thanked 318 Times in 143 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 5 Times	Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! Very interesting list of favorites. I like saba as well.

Members currently in the chatroom: 0
	The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009. No one is currently using the chat.

09-23-2013, 11:53 PM	#58 (permalink)
caliboy1994 <div style="font-style: italic;"><div style="font-style: italic;"></div></div> caliboy1994's Photo Gallery Location: SFV, California Find me on the map! Zone: USDA zone 10a; Sunset zone 18/19 Name: Andreas Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,301 BananaBucks : 290,739 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,474 Times Was Thanked 2,196 Times in 1,148 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 236 Times	Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! The real deal growing in Santa Clara, CA. Originally obtained from Encanto Farms Nursery. I'm thinking about trying out tissue culturing and putting this one along with a few others into TC. A nice fat pup. Probably going to take this one home to SoCal. This is how it looked in Spring right after planting: Hopefully I'll get a flower bud next year! Any idea how cold hardy it is? Could it survive a 9B winter with prolonged cold and periodic light frosts? I'd think it's pretty tough because it's in the ABB subgroup. __________________ "The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings." ~ Masanobu Fukuoka Find me on linktree here as Solarpunk Farmer: https://linktr.ee/solarpunkfarmer Last edited by caliboy1994 : 09-24-2013 at 12:19 AM.

09-24-2013, 12:42 AM	#59 (permalink)
crazy banana Location: San Diego Find me on the map! Zone: 9-11 Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,641 BananaBucks : 11,093 Feedback: 73 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,023 Times Was Thanked 2,962 Times in 1,115 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,999 Times	Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! [quote=caliboy1994;229627]The real deal growing in Santa Clara, CA. Originally obtained from Encanto Farms Nursery. I'm thinking about trying out tissue culturing and putting this one along with a few others into TC. A nice fat pup. Probably going to take this one home to SoCal. Caliboy: the Blue Java pups like crazy, so why bother to TC? They are somewhat cold hardy. Temps went down to 28 F for a couple early morning hours last winter at my house for several days. All the leaves died, but P-stems and corm where just fine. As of today I have two BJ with fruits hanging and a third one with a flag leaf. Planted the mother plant in May 2012, fruiting pups are from July and August 2012. I guess that is not too bad for a beginner. Hope your plants will produce soon.

09-24-2013, 01:15 AM	#60 (permalink)
caliboy1994 <div style="font-style: italic;"><div style="font-style: italic;"></div></div> caliboy1994's Photo Gallery Location: SFV, California Find me on the map! Zone: USDA zone 10a; Sunset zone 18/19 Name: Andreas Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,301 BananaBucks : 290,739 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,474 Times Was Thanked 2,196 Times in 1,148 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 236 Times	Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!! Thanks. Looks like it shouldn't be a problem here. It shouldn't get below 27 if we have a normal winter here. If we have a cold one I wouldn't expect lower than 25 or so. I'll keep an eye on the weather forecast November through March. __________________ "The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings." ~ Masanobu Fukuoka Find me on linktree here as Solarpunk Farmer: https://linktr.ee/solarpunkfarmer

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Musa Blue Java From Florida Hill Nursery, Real?	BananaGrower1	Main Banana Discussion	36	06-09-2014 12:23 PM
Real Blue Java in Oz?	sloot95	Banana Identification	13	08-04-2013 01:56 PM
For real Blue Java	sunfish	Main Banana Discussion	14	01-15-2013 09:05 PM
Did I Find The Real Blue Java ? Pix Inside.	edzone9	Banana Identification	6	12-08-2012 08:16 PM
Are These The Real Blue Java?	edzone9	Banana Identification	26	12-06-2012 12:11 PM