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![]() Hi all,
I live in USDA zone 10a. (Rainbow California) I have had my Orinoco and RajaPuri fruit for me planted close to the house. My wife has kicked my banana plants out away from the house (I tried and tried but lost that fight), I have gophers and I am putting my plants in pseudo raised beds (wire mesh in the ground). How large do the mats get? What will grow and survive and fruit out in the open in zone 10a? I have the following - (Orinoco, Raja Puri, MisiLuki in the open, the rest in pots at the moment).. ![]() Orinoco Rajapuri Misiluki Williams Ice Cream Dwarf Cavendish Dwarf Brazillian Gran Nain Cali Gold Gold Finger Maybe a Gros Michel Thanks...Eddie |
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![]() You can add Red Iholena to that list.. it survives Z9 winters. Namwah is a given. :^)
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<div style="font-style: italic;"><div style="font-style: italic;"></div></div> Location: SFV, California
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![]() I live in Z10a in the Los Angeles area and grow my Namwah/Ice Cream (very similar to the Misi Luki that is being sold here in the states), Raja Puri, Orinoco, and Pisang Klotek (similar to Mysore) outside in the ground and they make it through it just fine. The only ones on that list you would have issues with are Dwarf Cavendish, Gran Nain, and Gros Michel (especially Gros Michel).
You can expect Orinoco to get 10-15' tall and slender, Misi Luki 10-12' tall, and Raja Puri 5-7' tall. All three have an exceptional level of cold hardiness and make it through California winters just fine. You should expect harvests from all three of them about two years after planting onwards. As for the gophers, you're going to want to get rid of them. Hire a gopher trapper or exterminator. They will eat the corms of your plants if you don't do so. We got rid of the gophers at our house several years before planting our bananas, and now they are doing just fine. As for the mats, the Orinoco and Misi Luki mats can get huge if you don't manage them. Raja Puri forms smaller mats because it's a much smaller plant. I believe all three of those varieties are heavy puppers, so be prepared.
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![]() I want to get namwa for sure. .
I ask about the mats because I want to put lathing mesh down first. Home Depot sells them for 5 bucks for a 27" x 96" sheet..thinking that 2 side by side on the ground would be good. I read that after 7 - 10 years the mats should be dug out. I have a few acres so the gophers aren't going away... Eddie |
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![]() Your Misi Luki is almost certainly a Namwah type.
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![]() No. 1 - Get a new wife.
No 2. - I would allow at least a 6 x 6 planting area, and preferably 10 x 10.
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![]() New wife - too expensive!!
3 sheets of lathing gives me 6' x 8'... |
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![]() Get an LGD and keep the wife. LGD will handle the gophers. Plus is that you can have a few chickens and maybe a goat or 2 on your few acres if zoning permits.
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![]() Excuse my ignorance but what is an LGD?
chickens I have. ..goats eat everything. .. |
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EX BF had sheep, goats, chickens and feeder pigs (well, they did grow up) in coyote country (NE OH); he never lost an animal to them or any other predator. His garden needed no protection even from deer much less rabbits, groundhogs or even birds. I had chickens at his place after he stopped farming and had found Bear a new home. I lost quite a few of my layers (I appreciated that 3 roosters who insisted on flogging me got their just rewards) to a mink, 3 raccoons and a skunk; we trapped them and he shot them to feed to the buzzards which was quite legal there. He removed 4 trapped animals but told me the skunk filled cage was mine to relocate. Huh? I did so quite carefully after doing a little research so I didn't get sprayed but...did I happen to mention that he's my EX BF? ![]() Goats browse; I have no idea if they like banana leaves but I do know that, though they are very fond of brambles, your wife's pretty flowers and poison ivy, they don't eat grass unless very hungry.
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![]() They eat everything is right.. Wires, plants you name it.. They will try it.. :^)
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![]() Goat Chops are quite Delic.. I have a Shoulder I need to do.. :^)
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![]() Recipe? I really like a gentle Jamaican curry (by gentle I mean tomatoes in the sauce) but jerked is also good as is roasted.
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![]() Sounds Good, but goats unless penned well will reek havoc on banana's just like pigs.. So best have a fool proof plan.. Goats are good (to eat), but I want my bounty from my Banana's too.. :^)
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![]() Okay, if I ever get my little acre again, no goats because they don't respect hot wires as well as pigs. And I'd take my chance on the latter because I dearly love my bacon. What about sheep and bananas? Any clue? (I do know that chickens will find a way into your garden to eat anything red or blue but doubt they'd forage on banana leaves. Of course they might dine on the green frogs...rethinking this all now....)
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![]() I'd leave at least a 2.5'x 2.5' center for your mat.. will allow for your material to go further.. :^)
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![]() My horinoco out in open getting a lot of Sun has grown more in 4 months than the momma
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![]() They eat everything is right.. Wires, plants you name it.. They will try it.. :^)
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