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Old 09-21-2016, 09:48 PM   #481 (permalink)
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Default Re: Time to put the bananas to sleep for the Winter

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I thought I was on this site somewhere pictures of someone uncovering a p-stem in the spring and they'd used the roll type insulation. But yes, it was covered in plastic to then keep it all dry.

How cold do you get in Pennsylvania? I'm in Denver and it typically will get a little below zero once or twice each winter. Typical lows will be in the mid to upper teens, average highs are mid 40s. So it won't be exposed to say, a week straight without ever going above freezing.

I lost the p-stem last winter, but lots of growth around it came back. Last winter, it seemed to turn to mush around March. But I only had it wrapped in bubble wrap. Everyone seems to agree that it needs something breathable, then covered with plastic.
Kudos to all the forum members whom shared their successful ways to overwinter their plants.

I know there are many ways to do this but this works for me in zone multiple zones for a basjoo.


You could save your self some money and just put a heavy layer of mulch, straw and all the other stuff some of the previous posters said. Even top it off with a permeable cover. I have used large bags of grass and leaves and aged manure with good results.

The object is to put as much space between the corm and the coldest winter air.


We zone 5-6 re's have too many freeze days for our plants to be protected in a wrapped vertical position.

SO do not entertain this method.

To find out our winter averages do an internet search(Weather Underground is a good place to start)..and make note of frost/freeze depth,nighttime temps, and average number of days below freezing, and snow cover.

Oddly enough it is said that one inch of snow has the R-value of 1, So 40 inches of snow equal a R40 value.

I mulch with a 8-12 inch layer of wood chips or landscape mulch. I usually do not have a good snow cover.
If you want to see more photos ....just double click on the pic.

To grow properly your plants should be planted in well drained and very fertile soil.
Preferably slightly elevated if possible.

Bubble wrap and insulation do not work on non heat producing objects....but in higher hardiness zones it does work to slow the chill getting to the plant for short term cold spells.
Some fellas put mini christmas lights(not led) around their plants and them wrap them during a cold spell....it works.

Plant are Basjoos in a well maintained local zone 5/6 botanical garden.


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Old 09-23-2016, 12:12 PM   #482 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: Time to put the bananas to sleep for the Winter

I agree bubble wrap and insulation don't work without a heat source, I do believe it is possible to obtain some heat from the ground. This was discussed in a previous posting by OlafHenry. [Citation needed]

Last year, I was able to save a 4' basjoo stalk through our Pennsylvania winter. It wasn't as cold as some years, but still there is usually a few days of arctic chill. Some days, the highest temperature was below 20F and we even had some nights in the single digits.

My original thread on this is here:
Uncovered my basjoos in Pennsylvania!

I think it is possible to save individual stalks with the insulation method, however its probably not practical for a large mat with multiple stalks. Like the ones Cincinnana is showing.

Based on my expereince, if the corm is large enough, basjoo plants can recover their previous year's height very quickly. So the extra effort to save the stalk will only be noticed in early spring....

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Old 09-26-2016, 04:12 PM   #483 (permalink)
 
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I agree bubble wrap and insulation don't work without a heat source, I do believe it is possible to obtain some heat from the ground. This was discussed in a previous posting by OlafHenry. [Citation needed]

Last year, I was able to save a 4' basjoo stalk through our Pennsylvania winter. It wasn't as cold as some years, but still there is usually a few days of arctic chill. Some days, the highest temperature was below 20F and we even had some nights in the single digits.

My original thread on this is here:
Uncovered my basjoos in Pennsylvania!

I think it is possible to save individual stalks with the insulation method, however its probably not practical for a large mat with multiple stalks. Like the ones Cincinnana is showing.

Based on my expereince, if the corm is large enough, basjoo plants can recover their previous year's height very quickly. So the extra effort to save the stalk will only be noticed in early spring....

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The growth around my old, dead p-stem is just a bunch of smaller plants that only grew to around 3' this year. Not really all that interesting to look at.
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:30 PM   #484 (permalink)
 
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Since I chopped the top off and dug up my basjoo, it's been sitting in the garage and a new leave has begun growing. I have the root ball (corm) loosley covered in a trash bag. For anyone who's had success with this, should I go ahead and just move it to the dark, cool corner in the basement now?
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Since I chopped the top off and dug up my basjoo, it's been sitting in the garage and a new leave has begun growing. I have the root ball (corm) loosley covered in a trash bag. For anyone who's had success with this, should I go ahead and just move it to the dark, cool corner in the basement now?
yep it can go to the basement now
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Since I chopped the top off and dug up my basjoo, it's been sitting in the garage and a new leave has begun growing. I have the root ball (corm) loosley covered in a trash bag. For anyone who's had success with this, should I go ahead and just move it to the dark, cool corner in the basement now?
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Well, it's been placed in hibernation for the winter. Now, I wait...
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Well, it's been placed in hibernation for the winter. Now, I wait...
Thx for the response.
Your plants will do well this year..

I just mulched a mat today 12+ inches of wood chips....

Side note.......

The plant is now growing on ground temperatures and will push leaves till a continuous Extended AIR TEMP of 32 or below....

Yes, the leaves will get frost bitten......but the stem will keep pushing leaves...till the pstem freezes.



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Mine have been inside a few weeks now. Been a very warm fall...but Glad evrything is moved as we had our first freeze last night.



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I didn't even bother to plant mine in the ground this year, was lazy and left them in the pots from last over wintering. Made life a bit easier this fall but I don't think they grew as much as being in the ground.
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I checked on mine in hibernation last evening. The P-stem is still firm, so I assume it's ok. I misted the roots a bit.

Since mine isn't huge, I'm thinking about planting it in a pot in the house in March to get it going. Good idea?? I assume that then the best thing would be to move it outdoors in the pot in early May to get it adjusted to intense sunlight.

I typically plant my elephant ear bulbs in pots in early April to get them going so when I plant them in the ground in early May, they already have growth.
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