What have I got here?

palexxxx · 01-11-2016, 08:21 PM

G'day, I have three banana plants, I think that they are all the same variety.

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In the last two pics the plants are looking a bit sorry as a couple of buffalo decided to have a bit of a taste of the leaves.

Kat2 · 01-11-2016, 08:46 PM

I can't ID your plants but I can ask good questions for those who may be able to help. Where did you get your plants? If you purchased them, what type did the seller say you were buying? If they came from friends, has the grower ever had had fruit from the parents? (And, if so, did they take pictures? Can they tell you about the taste, etc.?) If you found them by the side of the road (don't laugh--I did that!), then you may not know what you have until they fruit.

Botanical_Bryce · 01-11-2016, 09:06 PM

The look just like my cavendish. Don't seem to be glaucus and are yellow. Short petioles and long slender leaves. I am no expert but those are my comparisons.

robguz24 · 01-11-2016, 10:47 PM

Kluay Khai perhaps? They look like mine do and given that you're in Thailand it makes a good guess.

palexxxx · 01-11-2016, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat2

Where did you get your plants?

If they came from friends, has the grower ever had had fruit from the parents? (And, if so, did they take pictures? Can they tell you about the taste, etc.?)

If you found them by the side of the road (don't laugh--I did that!), then you may not know what you have until they fruit.

I got them from a friend, they were clumped around a couple of others that he kept and we replanted them. He said that they hadn't fruited yet.

No reason to laugh about bananas growing on the side of the road. Where I am there's millions of them growing wild on the side of the road, and deeper into the jungles, away from the road.

Here's a few snaps from a recent motorbike trip I took.

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Some growing on the side of a road.

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Some growing on the edge of a rice paddie.

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A small banana farm on a hillside.

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Close up of previous pic.

Kat2 · 01-11-2016, 11:32 PM

Oh, but I found one that had been dug up and had a pup lying out for the "trash guys" to pick up. Seriously. Not going to let that happen. Would you? I was on my bike (foot powered) but figured out how to take/walk her another 1/4 mile or so to my house.

palexxxx · 01-12-2016, 01:36 AM

^ That's the best price that you can get them for. I got mine for the same price.

palexxxx · 01-12-2016, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by robguz24

Kluay Khai perhaps? They look like mine do and give that you're in Thailand it makes a good guess.

Ah, those ones we call 'egg bananas' The fruit is very golden yellow inside. If that's what I have then I'll be very happy.

Gabe15 · 01-12-2016, 02:57 PM

I agree with some type of 'Kluay Khai' (aka Sucrier internationally) for the smallest one, the larger ones don't really look like it to me, but it's hard to tell from the photos at this point. Can you get close up photos of the top of the pseudostem where the leaves begin? If you notice on the small one there are some distinct brownish markings in that area which is a classic Sucrier trait.

robguz24 · 01-12-2016, 07:22 PM

I was also going by the shorter plant and your belief that they were all the same. I agree the taller ones are difficult to tell.

Kat2 · 01-12-2016, 07:47 PM

You need to ask your friend if his clump came from different sources. If not, I'd wager that you probably do have 3 of the same type. Egg bananas sound very exotic and tasty.

palexxxx · 01-12-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

I agree with some type of 'Kluay Khai' (aka Sucrier internationally) for the smallest one, the larger ones don't really look like it to me, but it's hard to tell from the photos at this point. Can you get close up photos of the top of the pseudostem where the leaves begin? If you notice on the small one there are some distinct brownish markings in that area which is a classic Sucrier trait.

Ask and ye shall receive.

I don't know if these pics show what you're looking for, but .....

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robguz24 · 01-13-2016, 02:44 AM

Aren't those the pics of the smallest one, posted last in the first post above? I think he was asking for those same types of pics but of the other 2 taller ones. That would help make it more clear if they're the same as the smaller Sucrier type or not.

palexxxx · 01-13-2016, 02:47 AM

^ ah yes, you're right, I'll take some pics of the bigger ones in a little while.

palexxxx · 01-13-2016, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by palexxxx

^ ah yes, you're right, I'll take some pics of the bigger ones in a little while.

OK, here's a couple of pics of the pseudostem of the taller ones.

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robguz24 · 01-13-2016, 12:06 PM

looks about the same to me.

Gabe15 · 01-13-2016, 01:06 PM

I agree, they look like they are the same type, a Sucrier/Kluay Khai of some sort. There are various cultivars within this group, but the differences are mainly in height and floral characteristics, the fruit is all more or less the same. Another widely recognized international name is Pisang Mas.

Manabanana · 01-29-2016, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Botanical_Bryce

The look just like my cavendish. Don't seem to be glaucus and are yellow. Short petioles and long slender leaves. I am no expert but those are my comparisons.

I am no expert but it is definitely not a cavendish.

01-11-2016, 08:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
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palexxxx Location: Chiang Rai, Thailand Find me on the map! Zone: 12 Name: Peter Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 33 BananaBucks : 21,531 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 14 Times Was Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: What have I got here? ^ That's the best price that you can get them for. I got mine for the same price.

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Kat2 Location: Now nesting in Titusville, FL Zone: 10A or 9B ish. Like it matters? Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,153 BananaBucks : 273,385 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 2,921 Times Was Thanked 2,669 Times in 1,322 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 595 Times	Re: What have I got here? You need to ask your friend if his clump came from different sources. If not, I'd wager that you probably do have 3 of the same type. Egg bananas sound very exotic and tasty. __________________

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robguz24 Rob Location: Kalapana, Hawaii Find me on the map! Zone: 11 Name: Rob Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,506 BananaBucks : 285,761 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,320 Times Was Thanked 4,961 Times in 1,080 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 204 Times	Re: What have I got here? Aren't those the pics of the smallest one, posted last in the first post above? I think he was asking for those same types of pics but of the other 2 taller ones. That would help make it more clear if they're the same as the smaller Sucrier type or not. __________________ My micro-farm Stay on my Big Island banana farm cottage

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palexxxx Location: Chiang Rai, Thailand Find me on the map! Zone: 12 Name: Peter Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 33 BananaBucks : 21,531 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 14 Times Was Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: What have I got here? ^ ah yes, you're right, I'll take some pics of the bigger ones in a little while.

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robguz24 Rob Location: Kalapana, Hawaii Find me on the map! Zone: 11 Name: Rob Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,506 BananaBucks : 285,761 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,320 Times Was Thanked 4,961 Times in 1,080 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 204 Times	Re: What have I got here? looks about the same to me. __________________ My micro-farm Stay on my Big Island banana farm cottage

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