cherokee_greg

I get these from the lady across the way she is from Tyland speaks very little english anyone know what they are ? Thanks

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Richard

Top right are tropical guavas, bottom left looks like Java Plum -- aka Duhat.

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cherokee_greg

thank you very much I never saw these before she has some good stuff growing across the way she loves my bananas she came over yesterday evening while I was in the back with my bananas she had not saw them yet she kept saying banana from Laos

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chong

Top right are guavas. However, the lower left appears to be Jujubes (ZIZYPHUS JUJUBA) - called Mansanitas (little apples) in the Philippines. Duhat (Syzygium cummini) is much smaller fruit that is about the size of medium-sized grapes, same color as black grapes, and are clustered like grapes, though the tree is a very large tree.

The fruit on the lower right is hard to tell because I can't see what it looks on the inside. It is even larger than a Duhat. It could be the Palawan Cherry (Prunus Javanicum):


But if it has a single large husky seed, it could be the Hog Plum (Spondias Mombin). Or, it may be member of one of the Eugenia sp. from South America.

A picture of the fruit split in half would help.

bencelest

I agree with Chong of his descriptions of the fruit except the bottom right- I am not familiar with. But the mansanitas that I know of are quite smaller than the picture in size comparison with the guavas.

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chong

I think that the guavas are not the big guavas that you are accustomed to. So, the Mansanitas may look bigger in the photo. I just got some Mansanitas from a friend from CA late last year. They were around 1-1/2" long x a little over 1" in diameter at the largest portion. Personally, I like them better when they are dried (champuy).

Richard

Chong, thanks for the correction. The fruit on the bottom left is about 1.5 inches long? I agree with you it looks a lot like Mansanitas. The Java Plum I've eaten is about the same size -- so perhaps it was something else too.

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chong

Richard,
Here are links to photos of Duhat and Java Plum:

http://www.stuartxchange.org/Duhat.jpg

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/java_plum5.jpg

UF/IFAS Okeechobee Extension Service - Java Plum or Jambolan

It is possible that what you have tasted is the June Plum or the Ambarella (Spondias Chyteria, Spondias Dulcis):
http://www.tntisland.com/images/juneplum.jpg. It is similar and related to the Hog Plum (Spondias Mombin), but is much bigger than the latter. They both have single seeds, but the Hog Plum has a round seed section while the June Plum has star shaped seed section, as the photo shows. Hre's a photo of a Hog Plum seed: http://www.seabean.com/guide/Spondia...ias_mombin.jpg

Richard

Chong, those photos are helpful. There is a well-known nursery here selling the Java Plum with subtitle Duhat. From the photos these are not the same plant.

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musaboru

The one on the bottom left are Jujubes (Chinese Dates). Really popular with some Southeast Asians also, and Fresno is one of the places with a lot of Southeast Asian immigrants. They go crazy for crabapples too. Something about those fruit, which they usually pick unripe, they like to use and dip in fish sauce or whatever.

My mom just got a whole bag full of jujubes from a friend the other day. So they must be in season right now. I don't really understand it, its so bland and the texture is like Styrofoam.

Laotian: Jujube - Mak-tun, Guava - Mak-Seeda

chong

That would be correct if they are selling a plant similar to what's pictured in the first three links above. That is, with broad, glossy, oval, smooth leathery leaves. More leathery than, say, mango leaves. If they are "apple-like" and thinner, it might be Mansanitas. Another ting that distinguishes the Masanitas from the Duhat is that the Mansanitas has thorns, while the Duhat has smooth tender branches, whose bark is reminiscent of birch.

The Red Mombin had narrow, pointed, pinnate leaves, and smaller than the Duhat.

chong

LOL! That exactly what I think it is, though it's not altogether bland. That's why I mentioned above that I prefer it dried because it retains much of the sugar in it. We call it "Champuy" or "Tsampuy". A similar but much smaller fruit is also dried and is called "Dikyam". It's mostly the Chinese vendors that sell them.

Richard

Chong,
The nursery is definitely selling a plant with the same leaves and fruit as this, calling it "Java Plum (Duhat)":

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/java_plum5.jpg

and the plant does not look like this:

http://www.stuartxchange.org/Duhat.jpg

So I thank cherokee_greg for bringing up the matter in the first place(!) and Chong for his knowledge of tropical fruits.

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