saltydad

Slight thread derail here:

I have wintered my colocasia/alocasia plants by protection in the ground (unsuccessful), and potting them up and bringing inside (mostly successful, although I lost a Nancy's Rrevenge and a Black Magic this past season). This fall I will not be potting them; I want to store the corm for the winter. I don't have a 'cold' room, even my basement is warm with the furnace heat. What recommendations for storage are there..bare, in a bag of peat, etc.? I will also be doing the bare root thing for all my non-hardy bananas except the DC will stay potted. Thanks for everyone's help.

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Bob

Salty, last year when I took in my alocasia x calidora the main central stalk(?) if thats what you'd call it broke off. It laid around for a while then I just stuck it in one of those plastic containers just big enough for a sandwich with a slight bit of seed starting mix and ignored it since I didn't really care if I lost it. It's surviving happilly in the ground out back at the moment. This leads me to believe there would be no trouble overwintering much like a plumeria or a bigdog banana. I'm going to do that with whatever portion of it I keep this year.........let me know if you want a chunk/ corm/ whatever you call them. Pics are in gallery I think.

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adrift

Lorax gave the best explanation that I've heard in a long time, including the exceptions.

For those who didn't know that a leaf has sinuses and wish an English translation of "fusion of the posterior lobes" and how an average Joe can remember how to tell an alocasia from a colocasia, here is the easy way:

Colocasia (starts with a "C") has the leaf stem coming from a more centered (starts with a "C") spot on the leaf. Those fused lobes make the leaf wrap around the stem more.

Alocasia (starts with "A") has the leaf stem coming from the edge of the leaf (nearly, and ignoring the lobes) and thus the leaf & leaf stem look like an arrow (starts with "A") with the shaft broken right behind the head. There is little or no fused lobe behind the stem.

Now, go back and look at the pictures and you'll see what I mean.

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LilRaverBoi

Thanks for the simpler explanation, adrift! Sounds like a good guideline to go by! Although, to be honest, I'm totally down with phrases like 'fusion of the posterior lobes.' I once gave an hour long talk on 'The detection of respiratory burst activity in bone marrow-derived murine macrophages by the reduction of cytochrome C'.....so once you hit nerd-bottom, there's no coming back!

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LOL! Geeks rule, Bryan, and we both know it. Although, if I must say it, neither you nor I could ever be nerds - our hair and fashion sense is too good.

I've given talks on "The Hegelian Dialectic in Relation to the Early Realist Dramas" and "Harmonic Resonance and its Relation to Krebs-Cycle and Cytochrome-System Metabolisms" to name but two esoteric subjects, so I know exactly what you're talking about.

LilRaverBoi

LMFAO....YES...EXACTLY! Esoteric is the perfect word to describe the majority of my reality. But I would identify myself as a 'nerd' much more than a 'geek.' To me, nerds are book smart people who just know a lot about really obscure things...whereas geeks are more into computers, Star-Wars, pocket protectors, etc. Not really my thing. I'm nerdy to the utter CORE...but not really a geek, by my definitions anyway. Somehow I still manage to consider myself a 'cool' nerd via other various interests/hobbies. Maybe our definitions are variant....but I still feel like we're riding the same wavelength...which feels good! Thanks for the input!

PS...we're sooo beautifully off topic, but this is my thread and I just don't care!!! You've already taught me what I wanted to know, so feel free to indulge in the beautiful randomness!

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I was a co-author on the fascinating bestseller
Methadone during pregnancy in the rat: dose level effects on maternal and perinatal mortality and growth in the offspring
back in 1979, among others. Nerds all unite!

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Patty in Wisc

Howard, how about the fridge? I have a dry Easter lily bulb in peat, in my crisper & will plant it again in Feb. Shouldn't that just put them to sleep?

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lorax

LOL! Bryan, I have always identified Nerds as somewhat antisocial beings with pocket-protectors, poor fashion sense, an obessionistic bent, and a hoard of obscure knowledge, often about Star Wars and Computers, although Quantum Physics is also a topic of choice. Geeks, on the other hand, are somewhat antisocial beings with slide-rules, good fashion sense, an obsessionistic bent, and a hoard of obscure knowledge about just about everything.

Hence, my friends have often accused me of "geeking up the air" on a number of subjects, but they've never ever accused me of being nerdy.

Patty: That should work. The only thing that might hinder you is the size of the corms.

LilRaverBoi

Fair enough...as I said before...just slightly variant definitions. The moral of the story, though...is that we are the people who tend to ruin picnics by going into grand detail about some bug, plant or animal we see along the way.....or post thorough 300+ word responses to seemingly simple questions posted online which no one can later refute.

Ah, that's only way to live!!

Me and some optometry student friends (who all very are intelligent in their own regard) went to the zoo a month or so back. I was the person running around ogling all the plants, telling everyone their countries of origin and latin names...LOL.

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Eric

Jeeps! So much for Labels... How about just Cool, Inquisitive, & Having a Blast !? Much better than Cool, Inquisitive, & bored to bleep.

Beth, would there be any problems with cold humidity when storing Alocasias/Colocasias in a frig?

lorax

I've not had any when I did that in Canada. Then again, they don't take a rest period here so I don't do the fridge thing anymore.

Taylor

The Fridge.... great idea, Patty! Not frozen, but not too warm or too wet to cause problems (I think).

Simply Bananas

My wife planted both in our ditch. They are tough as nails when it comes to cold. Too much dry weather and the taro(smaller on left) will fall to the ground.

What else do you do to a ditch?

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In SE Louisiana you avoid them since they are quite deep and usually filled with two kinds of water - runoff from rain or lake/bayou water because of high tides.

And they will kill your car.

What are those frilled or wavy looking ears? I have some but I can never remember what they are called.

NeedForSeed

I've just ordered a whole bunch of seeds including some Alocasia Macrorrhiza seeds and now I'm wondering if anyone have grown these guys directly from seed? They are said to grow fast but it will probably take some time from seed I figure now. Well well it will be an adventure just like everything else

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