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Right now it's -4, and in the night it was -10

Canna's are frozen in the garden. Yucca's and Palms haves leafs very darkgreen from freezing.

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Here only 3cm of snow, but it started snowing really badly a few moments ago. 1cm/5minutes. BUt I guess it will faster meltdown than stay.

Good luck with those palms. Yuccas are good, but palms are much more endangered by these temps. Radical warming expected before 24th in here! Wow. It might be non-white Christmas after all. Well... Ante, going skiing this year? (yeah, I know, lols, sounds pretty badly - subtropical Ante skiing), if so, than let me know. Alps and Carpathian mountains have had lots of snow storms lately and the skiing season began on 4th December...

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Sea side up North from me:

Picture is taken this afternoon.
Looking wierd:ha:
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For me it looks very natural, like Baltic Sea:ha::ha::ha:

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Ante,

that picture is really beautiful ! it's almost a postcard! What region is that exactly?

Jack,

I'm not so afraid for my trachycarpus palms that I have in the garden. However I'm very worried about my Washingtonia Robusta. However it haves protection ( a sort of tent ) to reduce humidity from the roots. It's already a medium big tree (1.5 m trunk), that is no almost 10 months in full ground. Chamaerops are dark green from frost, just like trachys. Yuccas are dark green and looking odd.

Next week giving higher temperatures. We will see.

I will make a picture of the garden soon.

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Thats somewhere in Istria. They had 20cm of snow. The biggest snowfall in last 50 years ;)
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That really is a gorgeous picture, Ante. Here's my backyard in the middle of the snowstorm now.





We have over 13" so far, maybe up to a foot more before ending late tonight.

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Is that normal for your region?
Funny things are happening here, acording tonight weather forecast (its 9pm here now) temperatures will raise for 15-20C from Monday to Tuesday?
We will have warm Christmas again:ha:
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It used to be normal when I was growing up here, but hasn't been this early or heavy since the 60's. I had lived in NY for 40 years and got used to winters like this, but down here in Maryland it's been mild comparably. Back then we were zone 6, now we're 7a.

edit- they are now saying we also will get a Christmas snowfall. Ante, how's the housing situation near you? LOL

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Used to live over in Pasadena in '76-78
When the bay froze over, we skated out on the inlets
They had wood cutting chainsaws cutting the ice around piers
We wer using the blocks to slide across the ice

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Well, I have to give up now, cannot fight it any more.
WE HAVE ZERO C
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:woohoonaner::woohoonaner:
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ONLY???

Do you want some cold fresh northern air? :woohoonaner::woohoonaner:
-10°C here right now. :D Or maybe worse, I can't force myself to look. ;)

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Jack it is freaky cold for us. 90% of our cars doesnt even have winter tyres.
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Some of our cars neither. ;)
Freaky cold. :D Yeah... Joke of the day.
Don't worry, this is the last cold day, from now on a hot and wet front will move to Europe from South. Finally. But there won't be any snow on Christmas.

Btw. I just imagined a comic situation in my head. All the Croatian families in the south at the sea are barricated in their houses, parents hug their children in a very protective manner, some children are crying, chains are giving off that annoying and creepy sound, when suddenly darkness covers the sun...
Like a trailer for a movie.
And then the catch phrase comes:

Dark hour in Croatia. It's here... THE FROST..... Will anyone survive. :ha: :ha: :ha:

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100% corect Jack:ha::ha::ha:
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We have -18C and forecast fot tonight is -20 C (-4F):eek: Regards from the North!

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Still only -10°C here (thermometer on the northern wall of our house), so I don't think that the house would heat it up by more than 7°C. Damn sticker.
IT IS NOT -16°C HERE!!!!! DAMN YOU YOU DAMN STICKER!!!


Thought so. :D How about your heating? Have you found another way to compensate for air conditioner not working below 5°C?

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Im fighting with one extra heater and one spot light for keeping air cond warm:ha:
So fare so good
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Well, it might be the last cold night, so hold on! You might even have warm, almost summer like Christmas. Woohoo! I meant...
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Hey Seweryn how did this end?

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Jack Daw : I have an extra idea for that trailer.

A little girl dropped her ice cream outside and the next morning the ice cream is still intact ! oh the horror , ' woman screaming" eeeeaaaah.

btw

I can't remember when we had so much snow the last time ! 10 cm of snow is very rare here.
Well, 99 % of our cars don't have winter tyres.

Yesterday I was blessed to crash my car !! grrr I still can drive but I have some damage. I had to break for a woman with a child, then I lost control, because of the snow, and i ended up crashing a house. Effectively making an other front door. Oh god. Luckely nobody was harmed neither killed.

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That's why we here usually buy the 4x4 cars. There's almost zero chance of getting into slide. ;)
Limousines and smaller cars are a bad choice in winter, since they are pulled only by the first or last 2 wheels, whereas the other 2 are susceptible to over/under rotating the differential. :)

Snow here is quite common, but again this year, it came suddenly and surprised the road maintenance. They had been preparing for almost a year and slept through the worst winter storm of this year. Well, nothing's perfect. At least children ran out of the houses to play in snow and build snowmen.

AND the Christmas markets look much better when they are covered in snow. ;)

Btw. Ante, when I went to sleep the other day, it was -11°C on the thermometer and -16°C on the sticker. So I guess I still am an 8a borderzone. Yuppi. I just hope that the sticker was realy wrong and the thermometer was right. Now the stickie says -6 and it's -4.5°C.
How many people are on emergency rations down in southern Croatia? You know, because of the frost and stuff. Is there any way I can make another part of the Croatian romantic thriller: The FROST? :D

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There was an actual number written in snow and ice in front emergency room but guess what, it was all melted till 8.00 clocks:ha::ha::ha:
Looks to me that this frosty problems are allready "the Last year story" for me ;)
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Hm... So no hypothermia? That's good. But bad for movie industry. :ha:
Say, Ante, how do you feel about the prospect of 20°C you will be having on Christmas Day? Just like in Betlehem 2010 years ago... :ha: I would take a picture of snow for you, but fortunatelly we will be over the 0°C during the nights as well, so no snow here either.

:bananas_b to that and :nanadrink: for warmer tomorrows.

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:ha::ha::ha::ha:
:nanadrink:
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Dont get it any more?!
It was 10C till noon today and now temperature is rising as night comes!
13C at this moment! Dont even need to mention that its almost 15C jump in 1.5 days???
Am I looking wierd?:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:
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Even I had today O C, tomorrow will be +3 and in St. Stephen's Day even 9C:woohoonaner:

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Yep, warming up here too, we had 6°C at my place today, 6cm of snow melted down within hours.
I see that you've been a busy dad, Ante, so many cakes... :ha: Looking veeeeery good!

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Just to save this:
We are at almost 20Cnow!!!
White Christmas??? What is that?
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:ha: I bet you would like to know that, wouldn't you...
Slightly above 10°C here too.

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It's getting better but still freezing ! still lots of snow that is not melting

see pictures !



Palms struggling to survive,



My wife struggling to not fall

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Looks to me that she is more struggling with the snow:ha::ha::ha:
Take care of her!

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:ha: Palmpje,You should to equip yourself with snow shovel - it might be useful this winter :ha:

Here the last remains of snow are melting down. Unfortunately all my gold fish in the garden pond died...:(

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Seweryn; Sorry for the fishes. It seems we will all have some losses with the strong winter we have again!

Snow shovel could be interesting: The thing is that people are here not prepared for snowfall like that. Because we had maybe 10 years a row where it hardly snowed ( max 1 day and very little). People here don't have snow shovels, and no winter tyres. We already had lots of deadly accidents now. We have a service that distributes salt but they were suprised of the weather, and to late with applying it.

We got finally 2 degrees today ! snow is melting

At all I wish a very happy Christmas evening with the family and friends !
Enjoy the evening.

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To record this:
the warmest Christmas in continetal Croatia ever with max. of 22C.
Mine highest today was 19 C!
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Hottest Christmas ever in Ecuador, as well. Max of 48 C on the coast, and about 39 C is my highest.

Sing it with me Ante: "I'm dreaming of a green Christmas!"

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:ha::ha::ha::ha::ha:
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Aunty rulez!

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Green here too - because we had 13.3 inches of rain in 4 days including 9.3 inches in the first day!! But it stopped raining just in time for a warm and sunny Christmas - Merry Christmas everyone!

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Snow is gone ! :lurk:

But meteo is telling us that it will get colder again next week. :gif_esqui

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118 F! I did not know it got that hot anywhere except deserts! Everything must be brown there!

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Surprisingly green. We don't get precipitation, but the area spends a reasonable amount of time inside of clouds - remember that I live around 11,000 feet of altitude. We get our moisture from mist!

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Wow Beth when you get high you really get high!

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It's not the highest I've been, Lonie! Ambato is fairly up there, but when I want to relax, I go to the hot springs. This involves a road journey that peaks out at about 15,000 feet and I end up in the springs at Papallacta, which are at about 12,000.

And if I really want to get high, I'll climb Chimborazo. If I summit it, that's 20,700 feet give or take a few. I'm quite blessed, actually - there are only a few countries in the world where I could do this (most of them in Asia), and only the one where I can go to the country's tropical beach after climbing a glacier.

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That is amazing. I get alt. sickness just thinking about going that high. I am truly a flat lander. I like living in the nice warm (most of the time ) gulf coast flat lands.

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It is amazing that it gets that hot there at that altitude. The mountains east of the Mississippi River here are only a little over 6000 ft, yet it is significantly cooler than the flat lands. We get a lot of moisture from dew in the summer, humidity is rarely below 60%.

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Lonie - I get revese altitude sickness when I go to the beach - there's too much oxygen there! On the other hand, living at this rarified height has given me an exceptionally high red blood cell count, which helps me on extended jungle treks - it effectively triples my stamina.

SBL - We are significantly cooler than our flat lands - the Amazon Basin and the Coastal Basin regularly record temps in the mid to high 50's centigrade, exacerbated by high humidity. However, the uniqueness of the fact that the Ecuadorean Andes are situated just about on the equator makes our sunlight much stronger and ensures that we have high temps here as well. The difference for we serranos (highlanders), which robs us of the humidity at high altitudes, is the wind. It literally never stops blowing here in Ambato, and it takes the ambient moisture with it. Above about 11,500 feet, it does suddenly get quite a bit chillier - that's the nominal treeline and there's normally absolutely nothing to interfere with the wind past it. (The exceptions are in the Kiss the Sky pass on the toes of Volcan Antisana - this is a high-altitude forest, and it's cold and moist, and the Llanganates National Park, which is a bamboo forest that is considered such a dangerous place to go for its weather (it is almost permanently clouded and snows without warning) and terrain (quicksand bogs) that nobody really goes there.)

I'm sure this whole area was very different waaaaaay back when it was a Polylepis forest, but it hasn't been that way for thousands of years.

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This really intriges me. I dream about places where nobody have ever been, where insects and plants live that maybe nobody knows. I don't think there are many places like that left on earth. Humans drift to expand always bring the need to change the landscape, except for these unique places.

So, Lorax, really nobody dears to visit that place? are there people that went and never came back?

Do you know what type of bamboo thrives there?

Greetings.

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Palmpje, the Llanganates claims about a dozen adventurers, both Ecuadoreans and tourists, every year. They go in, often looking for the fabled Inca treasure that is said to be in there somewhere, and they never come out again, and although rescue teams are mounted, bodies are never found. Others are able to visit the park and survive, normally those who hire very experienced guides and are very selective about the time of year they attempt their visit. Those who have come back, and the rare few who have managed to cross the park, say that it is heartbreakingly beautiful, and that they will never return. I have made short excursions into the cloud-forest portions of the Llanganates, and it is by far one of my favourite places in the country. If you'd like to locate it on a map, it's the cordillera to the east, between the city of Ambato and the cities of Puyo and Tena. The remote interior of the park is one of Ecuador's last remaining untouched Vicuña habitats, as well as one of the only remaining wild Alpaca habitats in the world.

However, there are quite a few other untouched places in this country, that fit your descriptions, and that are relatively less dangerous to visit and explore. (Ecuador's lower Amazon is one such area - lots of it has never been seen by human eyes, or seen only by the tribes that live there.)

The bamboo in the Llanganates is a mixture of Neurolepis species, predominantly N. nana (Flechettes, which have fairly wicked spikes); Chusquea species - C. aperta, an endangered species, is common on the lower slopes; and Guadua species, primarily G. aculeata although on the lower slopes G. angustifolia, our native timber bamboo, starts to take over. Neurolepis and Chusquea, which are cascading runners, are extremely hardy paramo bamboos; Guadua, a clumping bamboo, is more tender and generally found in the cloud forest stages of the park.

This is Neurolepis nana, which I photographed on a trip to the paramo at Guarumal, near Quito.

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Want to keep this recorded here:
It is noon 31.12.2009. and it is more than 17 C on a partly sunny day!
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