Thoughts on the ID of this beauty? - Page 2

HMelendez · 11-24-2017, 01:19 PM

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Hi Ty, I'll have a Tuu Gia ready for you soon

WOOHOO!.......YEEEHAAA!........

Akula · 11-25-2017, 01:02 AM

A bit of off topic but wanted to say that I took a look at Ty's photo collection and he has a really impressive banana plantation. Nice collection of bunches in the back of the pickup. Way to go! Very cool photos. Thanks for taking the time to put them them together for us to enjoy.

I'm hoping to have some bunches next season.

obdiah · 11-25-2017, 09:15 AM

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Anybody is capable of making a bunch of mistakes in a post and nobody was putting you down. I often expect more out of folks then they expect from themselves and if it makes you feel better to interpret that as "putting others down"... go for it.

I have noticed your inability to either read or remember what was written is typical with your replies, so where exactly did you imagine reading something about "a pure or nearly pure-white banana plant that has grown to maturity on it's own, established a healthy mat and fruited normally".

In the spirit of sharing knowledge and experience, and not just filling valuable internet space, I think all of us here would love to see you explain that.

Now try to stay focused on what was actually written.

hey just [post picture of a fruiting or nearly mature white plant problem solved no controversy

Tytaylor77 · 11-25-2017, 03:18 PM

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Hi Ty, I'll have a Tuu Gia ready for you soon

Thank you so much! I’ve been waiting years so a little while longer is easy! Haha. Your an amazing guy Hamakua and i am extremely excited to one of the few to grow Tu’u Ghia.

PR-Giants · 12-02-2017, 09:07 AM

There was never any controversy.

All strongly variegated bananas are capable of producing fruit and an all white Manini and a completely yellow Blue Java are very cool bananas to grow. Actually there are many different types of variegation but this thread is about the cream colored Phantom in the first post. The Phantom doesn't have the stunning beauty of the Manini or the Blue Java but it is still interesting and anyone with basic knowledge should have the skills to grow it.

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hey just [post picture of a fruiting or nearly mature white plant problem solved no controversy

PR-Giants · 12-02-2017, 09:11 AM

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it's probably just based on a lack of actual growing experience.

I was very specific when I choose those words because they were exactly the correct words to use. When you have experience growing this type of banana it is very easy to know when others don't and as this plant grows each new leaf has the ability to become greener than the previous leaf as it matures and absorbs more sunlight. This plant will eventually become almost completely green when it flowers and many members most likely wouldn't be able to distinguish it from a normal green banana plant.

Gabe, if you would like to see a photo of a fruiting phantom banana, just ask.

beam2050 · 12-02-2017, 10:07 AM

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Gabe, if you would like to see a photo of a fruiting phantom banana, just ask.

I always loved seeing your pics of the phantom bananas. interestingly beautiful plant

PR-Giants · 01-21-2018, 08:10 AM

These plants are very beautiful and the transformation is amazing how they go from an almost completely white to an almost completely green before they produce the bunch of fruit.

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Congratulations to everyone that realized this was a Phantom flag leaf.

Another flag

We get a bunch of new flags everyday but these are quickly becoming my favorite.

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Plastid

PR-Giants · 01-21-2018, 08:16 AM

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PR-Giants · 01-29-2018, 07:49 PM

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For members who might not be familiar with this type of variegation, here's what you are looking at.

'A' - is a mature Phantom leaf. You can compare it with Phantom flag leaf in the bottom photo and see the same mottled variegation and the slightly lighter green.

'D' - is the peduncle of Plant 'A'.

'C' - is a young sucker of Plant 'A' and will have the same exact variegation as it's mother as it matures.

'B' - is a normal green ABB leaf that's in the photo for a comparison.

PR-Giants · 01-29-2018, 08:00 PM

It's definitely been cool watching these plants change colors.

All the leaves started out white to off white.

PR-Giants · 04-05-2018, 03:57 PM

Leaves are steadily getting greener.

The plant to the left is a different cultivar but has the same type of variegation.

Photo April 5

PR-Giants · 04-16-2018, 07:45 PM

These are one of my favorite plants to grow. They start off almost completely white as in the photo above and as they get closer to flowering they consistently get greener as in the photo below.

It certainly isn't surprising that some experts might think these plants die or don't produce fruit. During their visit they can see the white plant but on their return visit maybe they can't find it and think it died.

As more of these plants become available we will be shipping them out to botanical gardens throughout the US so that others can enjoy visiting them.

Top left part of the photo is a normal green banana leaf.
Middle left is a white sheet of paper.
4/15 is a new leaf.

PR-Giants · 08-30-2019, 09:06 AM

For members that are growing the white Pisang Awak types I would recommend that you don't kill them just because they are white.

The fruit tastes the same as the green version and they can also produce huge bunches but they do take longer to flower. And you can use them in your breeding programs to produce seeds and make new bananas.

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There is a very good chance that our largest bunch ever from a white Pisang Awak will be seeded. The inflorescence bloomed about 5 feet away from a seeded banana blooming during the same time. It has 15 hands and about 300 fingers.

11-25-2017, 01:02 AM	#22 (permalink)
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