Is this Musa Nagensium? - Page 2

Georgie · 10-21-2006, 11:53 AM

Oh dear, Erlend, I can hardly stick them back on, can I?

As a said before, given what I've done, I'm assuming I should keep it dry now until spring and wrap it in a few layers of fleece. Is that right?

G x

mrbungalow · 10-21-2006, 02:19 PM

It's not winter in England just yet is it? Here in Norway my basjoos are still pushing out leaves.

Since you have a greenhouse, I would just keep watering and feeding until maximum temperatures in there stay below 10-12 degrees C. You should be able to get atleast 5 more leaves before christmas time.

Cheers

Erlend

Georgie · 10-21-2006, 02:52 PM

Okay, thanks again.

G x

Roybhamuk · 10-23-2006, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbungalow

Georgie; The guy on the other forum who adviced you to cut off the leaves deserves a good onion up the nose! When the dark season comes, it will need as much green as possible for energy absorbtion to maintain metabolism.
I like to think of leaves as sails. Without sails there's nothing to power the ship.

Erlend

Hi another newbie,

having been guided here by Georgie.

Apologies if I sound a little funny but it is difficult for me to talk clearly with this onion stuck up my nose,

but I’ll try my best, although what can’t speak can’t lie.

Here are pictures of my Enstete Ventricosum a tender plant in the UK with all paddles removed except for the growing tip at the first sign of frost.

The same plant one year on, I just couldn’t kill the darn thing so I sold it as it outgrew itself in our little garden.

Nice site BTW.

P.S. I like onions but not up the nose.

mrbungalow · 10-23-2006, 03:06 AM

Roybhamuk, thanks for taking the joke and not retaliating with giant plantains!

Very nice plants by the way. You must be doing things right...

There must have been some communication problems I guess. For ensete and larger naners you do offcourse have to cut off leaves for storage. Large plants are different than small plants.
But for smaller naners such as the one here, there is no need to cut leaves, especially living in England where frosts come much later. The first frosts will do the job for you. Frosts to -1 or -2 C will take the leaves but not kill the stem. In a greenhouse I would guess you can keep temps above freezing in England. I have found most musa can take quite low temperatures, it's lack of light that kill mine.

I remember a fellow going swimming in a lake in Hyde Park one october I visited London. A real tropical paradise compared to Bergen.

Erlend

Zac in NC · 10-23-2006, 12:38 PM

Georgie- You sill be surprised how fast that banana will grow them back. It isn't the end of the world for that banana. Still unsure on the ID right now.

Zac

Georgie · 10-23-2006, 02:30 PM

Isn't Roy's banana impressive? So glad he and Erlend have sorted out their differences too.

Zac, I've already got one new 'paddle' - is that the correct term? - nearly fully open so I'll take some more pics soon.

G x

Roybhamuk · 10-23-2006, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Georgie

Isn't Roy's banana impressive?
G x

I don't know what to say

except this thread may go down the same road as the one on the UK Oasis

Georgie · 10-23-2006, 04:01 PM

Pah, only if there are peeps here with similar minds.

G x

Tropicallvr · 10-24-2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbungalow

I vote for Musa Velutina first, musa balbisiana second.

The reason for this is that Musa Balbisiana is considered one of the easiest to sprout, and since this kit is intended for children, that should be an asset. My reason for doubt is the red colouring on the plant. Balbisiana isn't supposed to have red.

Musa Velutina is also easy to sprout, but stays reasonably small and flowers early. (Fun for kids, easier for parents!) It can also contain a fair amount of red in leaves and stems. Can be variable. Search for photos on this site.

Could also be Musa Acuminata since this species contains red colouring, but then again, so do many other species. I don't know if musa acuminata can be that powdery though. Also, Musa Acuminata is commonly believed to produce edible bananas (wich is wrong, but still a strong marketing-tool.)

In any case, it looks like you have a beautyful plant!

Best of luck!
Erlend

Looks kinda like a M.balbisiana that I just sprouted this year, and it too is showing a little red.

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