Jeff zone 8 N.C.

That's a nice tip, on the coloring. I had always tried to save all my Manini pups but of course was not successful in some cases. Have always wanted to try another but after buying 3 different times over 3 years (many years ago) and being very successful growing them out and multiplying them, I would eventually lose them all to rot. I did not know then what I have learned, on here, since. I will one day try another.