No heat from my f/f or the top of the boiler. Sometimes I put one or 2 seeds on top of my dvd player when I am watching a film. I am germinating about 10-12 different types of seeds with more than 1 in a pouch. My banana seeds that haven't germinated in a year, I have just planted them in a pot outside as we have some lovely weather atm. So, hopefully they will do better outside.
