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![]() Long and very interesting interview! If it's too long for you and you just want the jest of the conversation, just watch 2 minutes of it starting at the 8 minute mark of pt2 .
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It is important to recognize that there is little data published in refereed journals to support these claims. Data that are available have been taken greatly out of context to support the accusations. |
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![]() That's because the little peer reviewed data available is brought to you from the companies making the products. It's ridiculous.
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![]() Well no way I am smart enough know who is right. Here is how I feel about it.
Recently appointed South Dakota Secretary of Agriculture Walt Bones took no side on the issue. "We don't have the 'science' to refute or support Dr. Huber's claims at this time," " |
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![]() Unfortunately, GMO can refer to several different procedures of genetically modifying organisms. Take the ballot initiative in California for example. Given the language in the initiative, several common varieties of seedless citrus, thornless berries, hybrid pears, etc. that we have been eating for 50 years or more would be classified as GMO.
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![]() Mitchel, I saw reports about Dr. Huber re-cycled around again a couple of weeks ago. I've read on blogs that he's had 300 peer-reviewed articles but have never read what those articles are about. His career was quite different from what he's make a name for now.
Monsanto does not regulate what gets researched or reported. They have not bought out every university and scientist in the country. Reuters reported some of the claims by Dr. Huber about a year ago but also printed why Monsanto said those were baseless claims. People want to believe Monsanto is "evil" so they only look for the information that supports their belief instead of looking for facts. The stuff Huber claims would be making news in the major outlets if it was credible. Bad news attracts viewers and the media would have a great time with it. Last edited by harveyc : 12-31-2011 at 03:03 PM. Reason: edited wrong post... |
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![]() No, no conflict of interest or power to make things happen in Washington. That's just crazy talk!
![]() From 8-11 'Michael Taylor was just appointed senior advisor to the commissioner of the FDA. This is the same man that was in charge of FDA policy when GMO's were allowed into the US food supply without undergoing a single test to determine their safety. He "had been Monsanto's attorney before becoming policy chief at the FDA [and then] he became Monsanto's Vice President and chief lobbyist. This month [he] became the senior advisor to the commissioner of the FDA. He is now America's food safety czar. NAME - MONSANTO JOB - GOVERNMENT JOB - ADMIN Toby Moffett Monsanto Consultant US Congessman D-CT Dennis DeConcini Monsanto Legal Counsel US Senator D-AZ Margaret Miller Chemical Lab Supervisor Dep. Dir. FDA, HFS Marcia Hale Director, Int'l Govt. Affairs White House Senior Staff Mickey Kantor Board Member Sec. of Commerce Virginia Weldon VP, Public Policy WH-Appt to CSA, Gore's SDR Josh King Director, Int'l Govt. Affairs White House Communications David Beler VP, Gov't & Public Affairs Gore's Chief Dom. Polcy Advisor Carol Tucker-Foreman Monsanto Lobbyist WH-Appointed Consumer Adv Linda Fisher VP, Gov't & Public Affairs Deputy Admin EPA Lidia Watrud Manager, New Technologies USDA, EPA Michael Taylor VP, Public Policy Dep. Commiss. FDA Hilary Clinton Rose Law Firm, Monsanto Counsel US Senator, Secretary of State D-NY Roger Beachy Director, Monsanto Danforth Center Director USDA NIFA Islam Siddiqui Monsanto Lobbyist Ag Negotiator Trade Rep Then there is this. Monsanto spent $2 million lobbying gov't in 3Q - BusinessWeek Nope, nothing wrong with this picture ![]() |
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![]() I never said Monsanto doesn't have influence in government. That does nothing to stop media from reporting credible reports about problems with food safety. For instance, there is a report out now in the AP about resistance to Monsanto's Bt corn. That is a legitimate concern that is well documented by various scientists, including at a university. There is no evidence that Monsanto has tried to shut them up.
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![]() I couldn't find a part 2. There are lots of diy moonshine videos
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![]() Labeling Of Biotech Foods Is Unnecessary And Unconstitutional - Forbes
Is GMO Labeling A He-Said, She-Said Debate? - Forbes (she admits she doesn't want to get into details about whether GMO foods are safe) |
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